Pimp My Profile: Marksmanship hunter Fizzlebow

Thank you for writing to Pimp My Profile Fizzlebow! You appear to be both deeply insightful as well as uncommonly good looking -- which is especially remarkable in your case since you don't have the rugged dwarven good looks to boost you. Marksman is indeed an excellent build to use in heroics, and I do believe if we roll up our sleeves we can jump your heroic DPS up considerably. We'd like to see you consistently doing over 3,000 DPS in any given heroic.I would like to submit my character for the re-release of Pimp My Profile. I have a hunter named Fizzlebow, he's profiled for both Marksman and Beast Mastery, though I mostly play Marksman because I have more shots to choose from. I play 3-5 times a week, usually after work. I try to get in Heroic dungeon on the nights I do play, hopefully I can get two done a night. I usually group with my wife, another married couple, and one of their friends. I would be interested in any advice that I can receive towards my character to improve DPS. Depending on the heroic, I usually get somewhere between 1800 - 2300 DPS, and it feels like I should be getting more than that. Thanks for any info you and WoW.com can give, keep up the good work!
- Fizzlebow
Best of all with higher DPS your runs will be faster than ever and I daresay your wife will be looking at you with new eyes and suggesting ways to spend that extra time!
Talents
Your talent build is pretty good overall, however I would suggest a handful of changes. Concussive Barrage isn't really doing anything for you, and you're way over the hit cap with all those points in Focused Aim. The Hawk Eye talent is not worthwhile -- you can always just stand 6 yards closer and spend those talent points where they'll increase your DPS. Improved Arcane Shot, which you passed by, is a very good talent for heroics. In general, I'd recommend a talent build a little something more like this: MM Hunter Heroic Build.
This is a bit different from a standard MM hunter build. We aren't worried much with shortening the Rapid Fire cooldowns or anything to conserve mana (that's what Viper Sting is for in heroics). We took out all of your points in Focused Aim. The hit cap for a heroic boss is only 6%, which requires 197 hit rating, and you've already got that from your gear and gems. If you decide to go after raid bosses, you'll need another 2% hit.
Glyphs
As Grandpappy Frostheim back in Khaz Modan would say, "We didn't have glyphs back in my day, and from the looks of it, you don't got 'em now!"
Your Glyph of Wyvern Sting is not going to help you at all, since you don't have the Wyvern Sting talent. Furthermore, Glyph of Rapid Fire and Glyph of Hunter's Mark are both going give you very little benefit in heroics. Try this out:
- Glyph of Serpent Sting: the single greatest glyph for MM hunters, because it increases the Serpent Sting portion of your Chimera Shot damage. While you may not even need to put Serpent Sting on mobs that die so fast in heroics, you'll certainly be using it on the bosses and the beefier mobs.
- Glyph of Volley: Volley will make up the largest percentage of your damage done in heroics, and it will be the biggest drain on your mana pool. For heroics this glyph is a good call.
- Glyph of Chimera Shot: you should be able to make good use out of having your most damaging shot available more often!
I'm assuming that your wolf Dave is your main DPS pet, since wolves are the best DPS pet and Dave sounds like the name of a heroic-running wolf. It does look as though you're a little over-protective of Dave, however. You have lots of his talents spent to protect him, heal him, and bring him back to life. Have a little faith in Dave. Particularly now with the new Cower ability, pets should very rarely die.
And honestly, if Dave does die, it's not a big deal. Just finish off the mobs you're on and rez him between pulls. I'd recommend a pet talent structure for Dave that looks like this: MM Wolf Talent Build
Gems
Your gems aren't bad, but they aren't optimal. Generally you should use agility gems instead of attack power gems. It's not a big enough difference to be worth your while to change them now, but as you replace your gear you'll want to convert over. However, you really want to use a Relentless Earthsiege Diamond for your meta socket. You only need one blue gem (or purple, or a Nightmare Tear) to satisfy your meta gem requirement. After that we're better off putting pure agility gems in blue sockets and ignoring the socket bonuses.
A Few Words on Rotation
While it's not profile-related, I'm going to say just a bit about your heroic rotation. In general AOE is your friend in heroics. Use Multi-Shot whenever you can. If there are three or more mobs, go ahead and just Volley them down. Don't bother putting up Hunter's Mark or Serpent Sting on things that you know are going to die very fast -- it's not worth it if it won't be around for a while. For full information on optimizing heroic DPS, you can see our guide on Hunting Heroics and PUGs.
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I hope this steers you toward higher DPS, shorter runs, and more time to admire your seething good looks in the mirror. Drop us a line and let us know how it works out for you!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Etcee Feb 3rd 2010 7:08PM
First of all, I just want to say, this is probably the most amazing new feature on wow.com in easily a year. I love the idea, I love the tone of the articles, and I love that it will help likeminded readers too shy to submit their own specs.
I would also like to submit my main here, Broin, an Arms Warrior
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&cn=Broin
I'm a big fan of Arms Warriors in PvE, huge Execute crits, big Overpower hits, etc - But I feel like I'm missing the nuances. Its hard to keep up with what stats are 'good' now (Armor Pen, Atk Power vs. Strength, etc) So it's been hard to enchant and gem for it.
I do good dps when im all buffed up, But i really feel that with my gear I should be doing more!
Thanks!
Bzak Feb 3rd 2010 7:34PM
It's amazing new feature because Frostheim is uncommonly good looking, just like Fizzlebow.
Shamatized Feb 3rd 2010 9:23PM
Well your gear is relatively decent. However, you should NEVER, EVER EVER EVER use AP gems. You will all most always want to socket ArP. However it's been proven that socketing 10 crit and 10 str is more of a dps increase than 20 arp for yellow sockets.
With your talent build, you should definitely switch to an Incite build: http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=1&tal=3022032123335100002012213231251325000004000000000000000000200000000000000000000000000
Your glyphs are pretty solid, glyph of bladestorm can be switched with rend to let you be a little lazier with keeping it up. It's up to you, though!
Your rotation is more of a priority based type thing, hit execute as soon as SD procs, and prioritize as follows: Execute > Overpower > MS > Slam
Heroic Strike when you're over 50ish rage.
That's about all I can help you with right off the bat, but keep it up, fellow arms warrior!
jumb Feb 3rd 2010 7:21PM
If the pet keeps dying, it's perhaps because growl is on? Cower is a waste of focus, even the worst tank should be able to produce more threat than a non-BM pet.
Spend a little gold and put epic gems in epic gear. Also, the darkmoon trinket would be an upgrade over both of the current ones.
doug Feb 3rd 2010 7:24PM
Yes, because 0 focus is a waste of focus.
Hierakles Feb 3rd 2010 7:48PM
Just remember, Cower doesn't lower your pets threat any more. Instead, it reduces incoming damage by 40%, so ideally you will want both Growl and Cower off, unless you have pet survival issues.
jumb Feb 3rd 2010 9:27PM
Whoops, I didn't even notice the new cower in 3.3! Cheers for the correction.
Crash Feb 3rd 2010 7:22PM
"Dave sounds like the name of a heroic-running wolf"
brb renaming my wolf to Dave.
Boydboyd Feb 4th 2010 9:25AM
As much as I would like to rename my wolf "Dave", he's a raiding wolf.
Hence, I prefer his name better. "Meatatarian"
(Please disregard that my hunter is a butterfly-humpin' Night Elf. He's being race-changed this weekend.)
Boyd of Shadowsong
Chris Feb 3rd 2010 7:31PM
Brilliant. What a great feature for your site. So much more positive and useful than the forum OCD jerkist min-max bs. And love the tone this was written in as well. Good job guys!!
Tethra Feb 3rd 2010 7:40PM
Yeah, I like that these are written without being condescending and elitist. A lot of people are afraid to ask for help because of the "LOL n00b U terribad" attitude people on the forums tend to have. This is a good way for people to get class help without worrying about being put down.
Pyromelter Feb 3rd 2010 7:53PM
As a hardcore min-maxer, I approve of your comment, the blog post, and this entire series. One of the best things going on wow.com right now for sure.
Austin Feb 3rd 2010 7:40PM
Awesome feature, keep this going
Hellwraith Feb 3rd 2010 7:54PM
Without doubt one of the best features on wow.com. As Tethra pointed out, there is no elitist tone, but easy to understand and even funny comments. This really encourages people not be afraid and ask. We were once students, and it took us a while to learn some stuff in the game (I still consider myself half-a-n00b in pretty much every aspect in the game), and it's always gratifying to help people out. Many simply don't know what they're doing wrong, and getting into heroics and having people yell at you "ZOMG WTF BBQ YoUr DpS is teh suk!", isn't helping at all.
sprout_daddy Feb 3rd 2010 7:54PM
Amen! This is an awesome new feature, and this column in particularly is making me wonder whether I shouldn't ask Blizzard to restore my little-used 80 hunter.
Johan Feb 3rd 2010 8:04PM
This is good but you did a hunter already two weeks ago, in the second column. Can I please request that you go through one of each of the classes before repeating any classes? Keep these columns coming!
vanye111 Feb 4th 2010 9:49AM
Keep in mind he can only pimp the profiles that get submitted...
Priestess Feb 4th 2010 3:49PM
@ Johan
Actually, that made me laugh more than the post itself. First thought: "Lol, it's not called Huntard for no reason."
My husband plays a hunter, and I have to agree with a few others who've posted about hunters that it's an amazing class to level with, but it definitely gets more complicated when you hit the endgame, and it seems that a lot of people need help getting past that. Although, that said, I definitely agree with you, I'd prefer to see all classes covered before any are revisited.
And what was with last week's? That hardly needed much help. I think it would be more effective to cover profiles that genuinely need help AND offer a good base for some basic and solid advice, over ones that may need a rotation check and a few very minor tweeks. IMO. If WoW.com isn't getting submissions for certain classes/specs, I know they've made calls for such things before. ;) But overall, definitely a fantastic idea and column. Keep it up!
Joel Feb 3rd 2010 10:31PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Black+Dragonflight&cn=Noxapater
Pimp my lock!
Viper007Bond Feb 3rd 2010 11:48PM
I'll be straight and to the point. Please don't take this as me being a dick or calling you a noob. :)
0/41/30 is a very poor DPS spec. It was good for a while, but no longer. Here's the top DPS specs (on paper):
http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t48311-simulationcraft_warlocks_3_3_2_numbers/
Affliction is #1 and Destro is #2, although unless you're hardcore raiding, I'd argue Destro is a better bet as unlike Affliction, you have burst (good for 5 mans). Here is the Destro spec and glyphs I use: (I'm my guild's Demo buff bitch, so make sure you're viewing my right spec)
http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=us.gnomeregan.bubbajohn#talents
Your shoulders are ungemmed. Put a SP/Haste in there as that's a decent socket bonus. Use straight SP in red, SP/haste in yellow, and SP/spirit in blue (if the socket bonus is worth it, otherwise straight SP).
Hope this helps.