Scattered Shots: Grandpappy Frostheim on death knights

All I hear from kids these days is whining about death knights. Whining about how bad they are at tanking in their PUGs or how they can't even do 2k DPS. You hunters these days should be grateful for death knights. You don't know how good you got it, 'cause you have no sense of history!
Let me tell you, back in my day we didn't have death knights. If we saw an undead servant of the Lich King walking around, we shot it on sight. In those days a bullet to the skull was redemption, not the sissy politically correct version you got now. We had redemption piled taller than your head over in the Plaguelands, I can tell you that.
So take a seat, put away your new-fangled dungeon finders and take a break from your crazy barber shop haircuts and let Grandpappy Frostheim tell you how things were back in my day, and why you should be thankful for those death knights.
Back in my day, hunters were the most popular class by far, and for a good reason: we were the easiest to solo. Facerolling was very literally a viable option for hunters. As long as our pet got in there first, we didn't really need to do anything other than auto-shot.
And that's a good thing really, 'cause back then we didn't have a lot more choices. Sure, nowadays you got all yer fancy assortment of shots and misdirects and traps that you can place in the middle of combat. Never enough choices for you kids, eh? Back in my day we'd put up our sting, sit out a 3 second cast time Aimed Shot, maybe fire a Multi-Shot if we were feeling frisky, then sit there and auto-shot for a while until one of our shots came off cooldown 'cause we didn't have anything else.
Yeah I'm serious. You think that whole shoot 'n scoot thing is important to your DPS nowadays? Imagine what is was like when auto-shot was all we had for half of our rotation. You can be darned sure we weren't gonna let one of those precious auto-shots go to waste! Not like hunters these days I can tell you that.Not only were we easy to solo with, but we hunters were coolest class too, because we had guns and we had pets. Never mind that our pets were much harder to find, train, and level back then. They were also next to useless, not really much more than ornamental. Hunter pets in those days were almost as pointless as feral druids -- running up to their target and unleashing a flurry of gummy nips. Couldn't quite tell if they were attacking or just being friendly.
This is where the stigma of being a "huntard" first came in into parlance. Easy to play and cool are an irresistible lure to the worst of the WoW players, I'm afraid. In my day and yours kids, this one ain't gonna change.
Bitter priests and hybrids saw how easy hunters were to solo play and assumed that our class was that easy to play in the endgame too, which we certainly were not. Sure, sure, I just got done talking about how we spent half our combat auto-shooting, but you gotta understand that was a different time. You try chain-pulling Molten Core to your tank with no Misdirection or Deterrence or Disengage, just relying on perfect distance, timing, and speed, and on the tank to taunt it off before you got one-shot. You try that and then tell me we had it easy. You kids are the ones that got it easy!
But the stigma was worse than just being easy to solo. There was also the gold farmers.
Because hunters were so easy to solo, the gold farmers were all hunters. And this was back when they actually worked for their gold. Nowadays they just steal it, mostly by tricking gullible people into giving away their login info. Really, I sometimes wonder what they teach you kids while you're leveling these days. Back in my day we didn't need a special tip to tell us not to enter our login info on some website. Lemme give you some advice: no one is giving you a free mount, a free pet, a free prize of any sort. You didn't win any contest or lottery. They aren't giving you an alpha invite or a beta invite anymore than that Nigerian prince is really entrusting you with millions. Sheesh, kids.
It was really easy to identify the gold farmers in those days too. If you saw a level 60 hunter killing something, you'd check to see if he had the Spirit Bond buff -- you couldn't see someone's talents by inspecting back then after all. If he was BM, odds were very good that he was a farmer.
You BM hunters complain today that you aren't a great raiding spec in addition to being a great PVP spec and the best solo spec -- you don't know how good you got it. BM in my time was laughable, good for facerolling and maybe leveling. In fact the only thing more pathetic than a BM hunter was a survival hunter. Back in my day we only had one raiding spec and that was MM. You could tell a veteran MM hunter from his proudly displayed Trueshot Aura. That thing had a duration back then, and it was always falling off at the worst time. Cost a chunk of mana to put it up again too. Now it not only lasts forever, but it's free to boot.
Kids I tell ya -- you give and you give and they just want more and more.

Those gold farming BM hunters are also where the "all loot is hunter loot" stigma came from too. See, back then the only way you were going to get more than one or two epics was to raid -- and by raid, I mean 40-man raiding. Not like today where they outfit you in full epics for nothing just to make you feel good about yourselves. It's like schools that don't want to fail any kids 'cause it'll hurt their feelings. Let me tell you, in my day being outfitted in epics meant something. It was a testament to your skill and the quality of your guild. It was the kind of thing that had random people standing in awe, sending you tells about how awesome you are just as the sight of an /inspect. We didn't need your silly achievements -- we wore our achievements with us everywhere.
Even blues were tough to come by. I remember standing on the docks at Menethil and inspecting people to pass the time while waiting for another boat to sink and kill me in the ocean -- that's right, even simple ocean travel was dangerous back then. If you inspected someone and they were in all blues -- that was damned impressive! You knew that person had worked a long, long time to get that kind of gear!
But a lot more of the gear was BOE back then, those badass blues, which is where the BM gold farmers come in. Ninjaing loot was a much, much bigger deal in those days. And because hunters were easy to solo, the farmers were hunters. And they are the ones who would roll need on every BOE of any kind that dropped, so they could AH it for the gold.
So you see how it goes now, don't you? Easiest class to solo, and coolest class with nifty pets, so we get every mindless passenger of the short bus playing our class. Some legitimate complaints about the "huntard" mentality there, we had a heck of a lot of horrible players in our class. Add to that the gold farmers stealing loot left and right and our reputation is in the dirt. No amount of chain pulling or kiting or topping the meters would change anyone's mind. Not even combat trapping -- and this was an impressive skill when you couldn't place traps in combat ya know.
And then we get death knights.
By this time the gold farmers are stealing all their money rather than farming it, so those guys are gone. The problem children of our class now are all the idiots... and Blizzard presents them with a badass, overpowered, sexy class that is easier by far to solo with than even hunters. They're undead, they get to slaughter innocents in their intro quests, they have lots of abilities with the word "blood" in them. No siren's song could be so sweet.
Every huntard with pets on aggressive running with no aspect flew like moths to the unhallowed flame of the hero class. Goodbye Leggolass and hello Arthasss. After a few months we weren't hearing the word "huntard" nearly as often.
When you're in your dungeon finder PUG with death knight that's of less use than your pet, you remember what it was like back in my day. Remember that there's a real person behind the keys of that death knight, and if not for the death knight class, he would likely be sullying the good name of hunters.
So next time you see a death knight, don't complain. Instead thank him for taking on the burden of our unwashed and unwanted. And assure him that he won't have it to bear for long -- they're already moving on to the ret pallies after all.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 7)
EderX Feb 8th 2010 11:27AM
Thank you for this great article! Had me laughing all over the place.
I've had the same theory (I call it "DHS" or Death Huntard Syndrome) since most of the terrible hunters have moved to DK's and Ret/Prot Pallies. Something to watch out for - I think a number of them have started rolling rogues, because I've been seeing a lot of subpar rogues in LFD groups that seem to follow the same method of being unable to find their /p button in favor or /s (that and that every other word is "lolwut" or "sutfnoob").
The good dks, pallies and rogues out there - keep playing your class well and don't let all the idiots who flocked to your classes get you down. Priests just got a buff so I'm sure some will flock over there and begin smiting their way to the bottom of the dps meter and wondering why shadowform keeps falling off.
Arbolamante Feb 8th 2010 11:35AM
Ah the things a new WoW player will never know. The Night Elf death run to Ironforge, Horde raids on the Deadmines summoning stone, the Druid Aquatic form quest line, running from one end of Stranglethorn to other and back to finish a quest 'cause you don't have a mount, actually needing to quest in Azshara and Desolace, etc.
Seriously - every NE newbie should be made to do the death run. Just for fun.
Gnosh Feb 8th 2010 11:59AM
Too bad it doesn't actually work anymore. Spirit rezzing will always rez you at the graveyard you first spawned at.
Justin Feb 8th 2010 12:29PM
Psh. That just makes it harder.
I remember when I had to do it. I didn't realize that you COULD run to the next spirit healer and get away with it... ah, the days of being a noob when EVERYONE was a noob. The first few weeks of WoW were glorious.
And one of these days I'll get that original druid past 55.
Phil Feb 8th 2010 1:44PM
Man I haven't thought about that in ages.. i think I made it alive the entire way once!
Vaeku Feb 8th 2010 1:47PM
Not true, Gnosh. Unless they changed it, you can still run to a GY on the other side of the continent, log out, log back in, spirit rez, and you won't get the rez sickness.
Adremelek Feb 8th 2010 1:49PM
Yeah, i remember the aquatic form quest. After getting the first half of the pendant I had to go to Westfall and I had no frikkin clue where that was. I looked it up and thought, "O.o holy crap that's far away" as I had never been out of Teldrassil or Darkshore. I think this was by the time the "death run" didn't work... maybe. It honestly didn't occur to me. Now these kids can just get weird-seal-form-thing from a trainer, plus the boat goes straight from darkshore to SW! Wow.
Anyway, I don't play a hunter but the title got me sucked in and I'm glad I read it. I learned a lot, remembered a lot, it was a good read.
biglou Feb 8th 2010 11:36AM
Nice rant...you forgot a few more points of "Back in the day"- no mounts til 40, no BOA 10% bonuses, it actually took work to get from 59-60, you were lucky if you could keep a full node of ore because it took multiple attempts to get the full load, bags were only big enough to carry a condom if you were lucky, your guild bank was a level 1 toon who had to be logged on to to see if he had mats, the epic class mounts (specifically pally Charger) had a quest chain and wrapped up in a dungeon, and until very recently Infinite Dust could range from 60g to 180g per stack (depending on who was trying to run up the market.
Anyways, nice blast to the past....but you had to end with a pally slam...sheesh....no respect =D
tamadams23 Feb 8th 2010 11:48AM
"When they had to kite mobs up hill, both ways."
HollyGolightly Feb 8th 2010 11:48AM
This is gold sir.
Mecer Feb 8th 2010 11:48AM
I loved this post!
I had the privilage, no the HONOR, of chain pulling MC. Knowing that if you got a PW:S it was a sign that the priests liked you, but you were going to die regardless. When MM was the only spec till you reached that magical Agility level where you could spec 0/21/30, when you didnt have AotV, no you Feigned Death and drank (while all the healers cried in anguish). I miss the days of having the only challeging class quest, where displaying your bow was a sign of pride and achievment!
Keep shooting Frostheim, keep shooting. If you wern't alliance id offer to tank for you........on my Death Knight.
vazhkatsi Feb 8th 2010 11:48AM
tho there are still a remarkable number of huntards running around autoshotting things to death with aspect of the viper on and wondering why their damage is red.
tho i recently leveled a druid past 60 and 57-61 in classic dungeons was a nightmare. if i got a doucheknight it was a 50% chance he was gonna roll need on everything. altho i did see a few of them actually wearing the "of frost protection" gear that they took for no reason. i guess the loss of stam and str and hit is worth it if you get 15 frost resist.
Ringo Flinthammer Feb 8th 2010 11:54AM
Yeah, I've been leveling a tankadin via the dungeon tool, and while there was a bad night elf hunter -- no FDing, no misdirect, and a lot of screaming at me when "she" was attacking targets I hadn't even aggroed yet and was horrified that they weren't going to me instead of her -- it's death knights who've been the problem.
Almost every single DK thinks it's necessary to Death Grip stuff away from the tank and onto them. I don't mind them committing suicide like that, but it makes the healers nuts.
Eyhk Feb 8th 2010 12:17PM
Not to mention DKs using Army of the Dead on Anub'arak (AN) while yelling that it is the coolest spell ever, promptly one shotting all the clothies (and self) on pound. Honestly, they need a taunt on/off button for those damn ghouls with the default set to OFF! At least it's off in raids lol.
Volarus at Galakrond Feb 8th 2010 9:23PM
"Almost every single DK thinks it's necessary to Death Grip stuff away from the tank and onto them. I don't mind them committing suicide like that, but it makes the healers nuts."
When they die after doing this, we boot them from the group.
vazhkatsi Feb 8th 2010 10:42PM
yeah what the hell is with every dk going unholy and using Aotd on every cooldown. you're just being a pain in my ass as the tank, cause it just makes my job harder.
Ringo Flinthammer Feb 8th 2010 11:51AM
Best columnist ever!
And the lack of shoulders in the screenshots makes me laugh -- that's our solution to a lot of Wowmodelviewer issues, too: "Oh, screw it, turn off the shoulders. At least they can see the face that way."
Frostheim Feb 8th 2010 12:32PM
Alas it wasn't intentional. When I went digging in the bank for my old t2 set I discovered I had accidentally thrown out the shoulders in one of my cleanings :(
Ramco Feb 8th 2010 11:53AM
An awesome piece of text as always. Before WotLK 80% of the bad players were hunters. Now you've got rogues, paladins and of course the Death Knights who take that title. Thank you DK, thank you.
BrownMan Feb 8th 2010 11:56AM
Grandpappy should be a regular in the "Scattered Shots" rotation. Excellent!