sounds like you need to join a raiding guild.

One of the great things about VoA is that you can bring along some of your nearly-geared alts and go through all of the bosses there and potentially come away with a few really nice upgrades. unfortunately the only people that you'll convince to go through the entire thing, even though it only takes a max of 40 min., is your guild.

This happens a lot to on my server. Blizz should make a weekly quest in WG that sends you to collect essense of the elements that drops from each boss and give players a big reward, thinking maybe huge ammount of money, a chance on a mount, an extra frost badge.

This would keep a lot of people killing all the bosses at least

@Serra there already is a chance at a mount from killing every boss.

@serra that's actually a pretty good idea. however, we would then be flooded with the dreaded "LFM VoA quest /w achievement & 5k+ gs" that plagues every other raid.

i am in a raiding guild, but since the alliance have voa maybe once a week, how do you expect the guild to make voa a priority at raid times?

You're unlikely to get any PUG group - particularly 25-man - to do a full clear of VoA if you down Toravon first. The best thing you can do is start your own group and make it clear that you're doing Toravon LAST, that way everyone sticks around.