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2-11-2010 @ 9:12AM
As a bear tank who runs randoms and often jumps in pug raids all I can really say is forewarned is best for me before I start pulling mobs.Sure there's no way to measure a player's skill apart from running with them but at the very least you can get -some- indication of whether someone has bothered putting -any- effort at all into a toon before trying to get carried through a raid.If I notice a healer isn't the highest geared I'll pull more judiciously, for example. If I notice 4t10 and all the right gems/enchants I'll go haywire and devour a heroic like nothing.If you don't look, you won't know.
2-11-2010 @ 9:25AM
@ZainThank you for highlighting an actual, legitimate use of such an add-on. This is exactly where these types of utilities shine, for personal use that will help a player know what level of play to expect from their Pug-mates.GS Add-ons and websites go wrong when every random group forming in trade demand a high GS to participate in older, or non-hardmode content. Like the article author wrote, it alienates newer players, or frustrates excellent players on younger alts.Blanket negative statements against gears score add-ons are merely fluffy, reactionary rhetoric. While 90% of the WoW population abuses the system and creates headaches for PuGgers, there are legitimate reasons to run them.
2-11-2010 @ 9:37AM
When I'm healing with my alt in heroics, I'll take a quick look at the tanks gear and then usually say "Pull unless I'm OOM". Doesn't take a damn addon for me to get a feel for a group.As far as I'm concerned (and my main is, according to others since I've never and will never touch GS, 6k+) GearScore can DIAF. It's the last recourse for lazy and incompetent people who cannot be bothered to ask people, check gear, etc. The original motivations for the addon/idea, to perhaps streamline such a process, have been lost in the slew of absolutely crap players who think that because their heroic-farmed GS is 5k+, they're the best of the best.This, on top of the added bandwidth/server time that such addons no doubt use - think how many times a single addon queries the server for information on other players. Now multiply that by the innumerable idiots using such addons.What I want is an auto-responder addon that will tell people with GearScore or ElitistGroup to f@#k off and die in a fire.
2-11-2010 @ 10:20AM
The problem isn't Gearscore exactly... it's just the use of it. LFM ToC10 - GS 5000 & link achive. Why would anyone with a 5k + Gearscore be bothered running ToC10. In full ilvl 232 gear you will barely be near 5k... so it's the requirements that are completely out of whack not the addons themselve. How can the requirements be higher than the score you would have wearing every peice of gear you could get from the instance itself. It's idiot pug leaders like that who are the reason you get the Resto Druid wearing feral gear because it's got a higher GS.
2-11-2010 @ 12:10PM
When this add on came out I was over joyed. I make pugs a lot (ICC 10, ICC 25, ToC, VoA), on 3 different characters. Let me tell you, this add on makes it so much easier to get people into the group.I don't invite people based on their gear score. For me it's totally in the gear choices, gem choices, and enchants. If a person is properly geared they will be in my group. I've had ToC 25 groups where half the group was under 5k GS, and the other half only went as high as 5400, maybe. We got 360 Pain Spike, one shot all the bosses, and didn't have any drama.I love this addon, it comes highly recommended.
2-11-2010 @ 1:45PM
@flawless You talk like a bitter old man - "BACK IN MY DAY!!!"Addons like these make life easier. People then over-rely on said addons, and cause problems. If people are complaining about GS/EG, they need to get into a proper guild and stop pugging. Would I rather choose a potential pug via EG or go do the legwork manually? End result is the same - I look at gemming, enchanting, overall gear, and achievements. EG puts it in one spot quickly.To those who say GS requirements are often too high compared to content - it's easy, don't join the pug and stop whining. You can get 5k+ GS by running heroics.
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