He know's to much. Kill him.

They would have to put in some ridiculously mind-blowing features to get me to throw down money for that....

But, that's me.

Sounds amazing indeed, but I think a lot of people would prefer for the fourth war (if it happens) to take place over the course of a new RTS game. Warcraft 4 .... droooool.

I personally think that World of Warcraft works best as a "post-war/rebuilding" kind of setting in which people are rallying against one big evil instead of two massive sides actively going head to head. But that's just me.

"It could be a very PVP centric expac, with raid content involving major battles in war, lots of new battle grounds, yknow, the works."

So... Warhammer?

The only problem with a fourth war or even any hatred ensued by the Alliance/Horde is that as a player on a normal server, it's not really at all that threatening or even possible for the developers to impose on a non-pvp server, which is kinda sad because I'd like to see war between the factions in WoW.

I play on a normal server because I do not wish to be ganked all the time while I level and I do not believe that kind of play constitutes toward the whole Alliance/Horde warfare, but eh war isn't glorious.

I would strongly approve of this if it were PvP-centric in lore and storyline only. I love to PvP...when I want to. So, making an expansion where PvP gameplay is the main focus would be a mistake. Making one where the battle between the factions is key to the storyline and where some of the raids revolve around fighting faction specific bosses or something? That might be fun.

Ooh...and more phased quests where you have to go to other cities a la Battle for Undercity.

I could see a Warcraft 4 taking place after the final moments of Cataclysm, and then WoW patch 5.0 pick up after The Fourth War.

PvP expansion?

I just threw up a little...

Cool idea but it'll never happen. Warcraft is a PvE game with PvP content, and to shift it solidly into PvP content in the vein of Warhammer would alienate too many paying customers. Warcarft succeeds by being a little bit of everything and being very good at it. So each expansion that comes out *will* bring new PvP content in the form of new battlegrounds etc, but that will only be a part of the new features.

That said, I am interested how Cataclysm is going to skew things into proper war between the Horde and Alliance. Garrosh and Wrynn and supposed to bring us to the brink of war, at least in lore terms. I hope that this translates into some interesting PvE content, rather than the cold war feel of vanilla WoW.

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@Kriegle: I'm with you, I want to see such a thing as a return to the RTS. Don't get me wrong, I'll Starcraft 2 for the time being, but I need to command massive armies of undead or Orcs once more!

As much as Blizz has been allowing the Warcraft story to be affected outside of WoW, a return to the RTS seems like the perfect way to pull off an incredibly massive game change. Imagine Warcraft 4 where the Forsaken go completely off the deep end and really do turn on the rest of the Horde, coinciding with an expansion which shifts the factions around. Extreme? Sure, but we never thought we'd be flying over Kalimdor, hobnobbing with Goblins, or healing with 2 kinds of Alliance Shamans either...

Just not sure I see Blizzard being organized enough to develop and launch 2 titles on top of each other for such an epic event. Take that as a challenge Blizz....

@Sicadastra

I feel like something like that would expect too much of the entire WoW population to move the lore forward and keep this the same game. I would looooove to see something like that in an RTS form; I too miss the days of commanding around undead and orcs. I think this sort of thing would be great to usher in a completely new WoW game, with different factions and whatnot, but that it just wouldn't work to bridge expansions.

-Beorning

What would be awsome is as you said, the forsaken splitting off, but perhaps some new races/current races splitting off and all of them making a seperate faction...3 factions would be pretty cool.

How about we could be able to import one of our characters from WoW to W4 as a hero? that would be seriously awesome and you could say i was there at that moment ^_^

This would be awesome if it had an opposite faction feel to it but not as PvP...think Gunship, similar raid elements and mechanics but different NPCs based on your faction with an epic lore based story. We can't have one faction win over the other completely in the end, but ICC (both the raid and the new heroics) shows this is viable. One won't truly dominate over the other in the end (the Naaru are building the Army of the Light composed of both factions), but a break-it-down-before-you-build-it-up story wood be cool.

Have fun storming the castle!

I was wondering about mounts in Cataclysm. From what I understand, pretty much the whole known world will be flight friendly (possibly even including places like IronForge and Stormwind.
If that is the case, will all of out land mounts become useless? Will we have wasted tons of time and money on collecting them, only to see them rot now that we can fly everywhere? Is it still worth it doing the Mount related achievement, considering we will not be using those mounts?