Scattered Shots: Extreme soloing
Welcome to Scattered Shots, written by Frostheim of Warcraft Hunters Union and the Hunting Party Podcast. Each week Frostheim uses logic and science mixed with a few mugs of Dwarven Stout to look deep into the Hunter class.
We hunters are basically an entire party unto ourselves. Our pet is the tank, we're the DPS, and we can split the healing duties between hunter and pet. By focusing on the right talents and gear and glyphs, hunters and pets can be a formidable soloing team, taking on content that was never meant to be done alone. We can solo our way from Molten Core straight through to even Lich King 5-mans.
Soloing content meant for groups or raids comes from the same impulse behind climbing a mountain: we do it because it's there. We do it for the challenge, the excitement, for the glory for the hunter class. And if that isn't enough for you, there's also the allure of legendary items like Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker, or rare mount drops like the Swift Zulian Tiger, Midnight, and the Swift White Hawkstrider.
Join me after the cut as we take a look at exactly how you can topple Molen Core to Violet Hold on your own, how you can heal your pet for thousands of heals per second, and become the envy of your guild mates. There's nothing quite as satisfying as polishing off Ragnaros and hearing your friends bemoan how horribly broken you are.
The Extreme Solo Philosophy
Before we get into the details, it's worth covering the basic mechanics of extreme soloing. Different instance and bosses will often require not only different strategies, but sometimes even different talent builds. Keristrasza in the Nexus, for example, I found easiest to just kite to death in my standard MM build.
However in most situations, you're pet will be tanking and sucking up all the damage, while you take almost none. Because of this the only things we care about in most extreme soloing situations are increasing our pet's health, increasing our pet's healing, and decreasing the damage our pet takes.
- We do not care about our pet's threat -- that's why we have Misdirection and Feign Death. If we're still having threat problems, we can just stop shooting.
- We do not care about our mana -- that's why we have Aspect of the Viper.
- And we really don't care that much about our DPS -- after all, as long as our pet lives, the boss will go down eventually. The only reason we care at all about our DPS is that it's related to our pet's healing, as we'll discuss in a moment.
Beast Mastery is the only choice for extreme soloing. No other spec has the wealth of choices, the dedication to the hunter pet, the ability to solo so many bosses and look so good doing it. The Beast Mastery tree has several talents designed specifically to improve your pet's survivability, and we're going to really want the extra four pet talent points that BM gives us access to. Extreme soloing lets us finally take all those odd pet talents that aren't worthwhile for leveling or DPSing.
A typical all-out extreme solo build will look something like this: Extreme Solo Hunter Talents

Here we are doing everything we can to increase our pet's survivability. Let's take a look at a few of the key talents, and some of the optional ones.
- Improved Mend Pet: We really care most about the dispelling part of this talent. You can probably get away with only one rank here for most fights; however, there are fights where you really want both for the increased dispel chance.
- Spirit Bond: This isn't a lot of healing, but it can add up over the duration of the longer extreme solo fights. Keep in mind that this is healing a percentage of you and your pet's max health. Thus the more health you have, the more it will heal with each tick.
- Lethal Shots: The three talent points spent in the marksman tree are pretty much up for grabs and can be spent wherever you think they'll increase your hunter's DPS the most.
- Survivalist: Keep in mind anything that increases our stamina will increase our pet's stamina, which will also slightly increase our pet's heals.
- Hawk Eye: A fantastic talent to have for soloing Molten Core, where you can out-range several boss abilities. However in most other extreme soloing situations, you won't get much use out of it.
The best pet for extreme soloing is the turtle. The turtle brings the powerful Shell Shield ability, that reduces damage taken by a whopping 50% for 12 seconds. Between Shell Shield and the new Cower, we have a lot of ability to deal with spike damage situations. On the other hand, if you're soloing content that isn't that challenging, you'll probably prefer a crocolisk or bear for their better DPS and AOE threat generation.
Our pet's talent build should look something like this: Extreme Solo Pet Talents

As you can see, we're focusing almost exclusively on survivability and healing. Let's take a deeper look at a couple of key talents here.
- Grace of the Mantis: This talent is vital! Any raid boss is considered to be 3 levels above you (or your pet). So even a raid boss in Molten Core is considered to be three levels higher than your pet. This means that it has a 5.6% chance to crit your pet. This talent reduces that chance to 1.6% -- and we'll drop it down to zero later in the gear section.
- Thunderstomp: This is the one talent that we're taking purely for threat generation, because we need some way to generate AOE threat for our poor turtle. Thunderstomp generates 2.5 threat for every 1 damage it deals.
- Roar of Sacrifice: We don't actually care about this talent. We just took it so we could get the phenomenal Wild Hunt on the tier below.
- Silverback: Another key talent for extreme soloing. Keep in mind that this talent heals your pet for a percentage of its max health. That means that the more health your pet has, the more healing he'll get from Silverback.
Our glyphs serve the same purpose as the rest of our choices in extreme soloing -- keep our pet alive. Everything else is second to that.
- Glyph of Mending: This incredible glyph boosts the healing power of our Mend Pet by 40%. Combined with the Blood of the Rhino pet talent and Spirit Bond, our Mend Pet will be ticking for over 2,200 healing on our pet with every tick.
- Glyph of Bestial Wrath: This BM standby glyph is excellent for extreme soloing as well. It can allow both us and our pet to escape from CC (such as, for example, the frost tombs from Keleseth in UK) more often.
- Glyph of Steady Shot: I prefer to go with boosting my Steady Shot damage for my third glyph, though to be honest I often just leave whatever happens to be in my third glyph slot from other specs. I like to think of this as the one glyph you'll be using to boost your damage as much as you can.
For the most part, you do not need a whole lot of specialized gear to do extreme soloing. I remember being proud to get my pet up to 19k health when I first solo'd Nexus (my pet now has well over 30k health when extreme soloing). However your soloing will be much easier the more health your pet has, and there are some key pieces of gear you certainly want if you really want to pursue the extremely challenging bosses (like Golemagg in Molten Core).
Here's a brief extreme soloing gear overview:
- Resilience: You really want to get at least 132 resilience, which will make your pet will be crit immune. Any resilience over that won't make a difference. Note that resilience will reduce your pet's chance to be crit, but will not reduce its damage taken. That part of resilience only works against other players, but the crit reduction works against everything.
- Stamina: Stamina is the most important extreme soloing stat. PVP gear is an excellent source of high stamina gear.
- Rift Stalker tier 5 set: The 2-piece bonus of your tier 5 set heals your pet for 15% of the damage that you do. This is huge for extreme soloing (though not absolutely necessary for most bosses). You can get your t5 set from Tempest Keep or SSC in BC. You'll probably want a group of about 10 people to safely clear those raids.
- Hit Rating: You still wan to be hit-capped when extreme soloing. Not only is it a massive increase to your pet's DPS (since your pet gets expertise with your hit rating) but it also increases your damage done, which in turn can be a healing increase with the Rift Stalker set.
There are a handful of consumables that can make a big impact on the ease of extreme soloing.
- Runescroll of Fortitude: Note that you are double-dipping from this buff. Your pet gets the buff, increasing its stamina. But you also get it, and your pet gains a portion of your stamina.
- Drums of the Wild: More health!
- Drums of Forgotten Kings: More health!
- Spiced Mammoth Treats: More health!
- Mega Mammoth Meal: More health! Note that we prefer this well-fed food over agility food because our pet gains a portion of our attack power.
You now know all the basic tricks to extreme hunter soloing. All that's left is to run out and start killing things that very, very few players out there could kill on their own. The majority of bosses out there are basically just a tank & spank style fight for extreme soloing, but many of them have special tricks and tips involved.
Here are links to a handful of guides and videos on how to hunter solo several bosses:
- Lucifron (Molten Core)
- Magmadar (Molten Core)
- Corehound packs (Molten Core)
- Gehennes (Molten Core)
- Baron Geddon & Garr (Molten Core -- drop the bindings for Thunderfury)
- Shazzrah (Molten Core)
- Sulfuron the Harbinger (Molten Core)
- Golemagg (Molten Core)
- Majordomo Executus (Molten Core)
- Ragnaros the Firelord (Molten Core)
- High Priest Thekal (ZG -- drops the tiger mount)
- Bloodlord Mandokir (ZG -- drops the raptor mount)
- Attumen the Huntsman (Karazhan -- drops the Midnight mount)
- Utgarde Keep
- Nexus
- Violet Hold
You want to be a Hunter, eh? Well then you came to the right place. You start with science, then you add some Dwarven Stout, and round it off some elf bashing. The end result is massive dps. Scattered Shots is the WoW.com column dedicated to helping you learn everything it takes to be a Hunter. Each week Scattered Shots will cover topics to help you improve your Heroic DPS, understand the impact of Skill vs. Gear, and get started with Beast Mastery 101.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 4)
Acabar Feb 15th 2010 5:49PM
Oh okay, didn't know power-auras did stuff like that as well. As a lock, I do alright with just NeedtoKnow.
Thanks!
Boydboyd Feb 15th 2010 7:21PM
Speaking of which, it would be awesome to get a full, in-depth tutorial/guide to PowerAuras around here.
I find it very useful for managing my Hunter's cooldowns, but I feel I'm not using the addon to its fullest.
Jarviswabi Feb 15th 2010 3:45PM
How about soloing BC Heroics? It seems like it should be doable if you can solo some LK 5-mans, but everytime I've tried (with a build very much like yours), my bear gets eaten alive, even in Ramparts. I have an annoying number of BC heroics left for my achievements, and I'd like to be able to do them without wasting time grouping. So if you have any input on that, I'd love to hear it.
Beruza Feb 15th 2010 4:52PM
I have solo'd a few %-mans in BC in a survival spec with a cat. Its pretty easy. I have done a couple in Zangarmarsh, a couple in Hellfire, and one in Terrokar. The rest were all too hard for me at the time (and being in SV with a cat)
Beruza Feb 15th 2010 4:54PM
edit: 5-mans, not %-mans
Gemini Feb 15th 2010 6:19PM
I've solo'd Ramparts on heroic and every BC dungeon on normal. On heroic it takes some creative pulls and patience and focus-firing down the problem trash mobs, making sure not to pull more than one group at a time and watching for pats.
Bindura Feb 22nd 2010 11:21PM
So far I have found the hardest BC Heroic to be Shadow Labyrinth, doesn't help that I don't have the 132 resilience or 2 piece T5 yet. Mumur was a duzy, I had to bandage twice, pop a health pot etc. I survived with 800HP with about 15 seconds before his next ranged attack, which would have killed me!
Some of the trash mob packs can be a real pain, and do alot of damage so you have to use CC and cower on the bigger pulls. On a side note I only used a scroll of stamina VI on me and Leonardo, so using all the buffs (with resistances) and appropriate reselience will make this significantly easier. You definately don't "need" T5 to do any of the Auchidon/Coilfang instances on heroic.
sherekhan88 Feb 15th 2010 3:49PM
Don't forgot Attumen conveniently in the very front and first boss of Karazhan! He drops his horse Midnight and is soloable as long as your pet can tank both him and Midnight in Phase 1.
Personally I'm hopping that I wouldn't have to drop my Worm for a Turtle. The new Cower actually helps increase pet choice for solo tanking nowadays, and I've seen Warpstalkers becoming popular since they get pseudo-Shell Shield with new Cower, and their Warp ability gives them very nice avoidance.
Beruza Feb 15th 2010 4:52PM
Speaking of dropping pets to pick up a turtle.....would a bear work too? It seems to me to be a good tanking pet
Frostheim Feb 15th 2010 11:30PM
A bear would work - any tenacity pet would - but the turtle has the best damage mitigation ability. So for harder stuff a turtle will live longer. For easier stuff go nuts :)
MightyMuffin Feb 15th 2010 3:55PM
If only this could be done with the new ICC 5-mans...so that I can finally get NES without a low dps DK who, for some reason, pulled aggro off the tank (yeah...it was weird...) taking the trinket. Or if Quel'delar dropped I wouldn't have to roll against other people who, actually, had the finished weapon...and were wearing it (of course, that's because we all want the money...)
*sigh* Show me how to solo Forge of Souls, please!
Darbaris Feb 16th 2010 10:05PM
Both of those items only drop in heroic mode, which is pretty much unsoloable. BTW, people who have Quel'Delar equipped cannot roll for the battered hilt.
Microtonal Feb 15th 2010 4:00PM
I go kill some time in ZG every once in a while, farming for rep and mounts (I didn't start playing until well into BC, so I didn't see any of the classic raids at level). I haven't done it in a while, but I've been pretty successful at taking down the raptor boss. Tiger boss is harder, though, since all three guys have to go down together, and there are proximity issues with the one who heals. That can be tricky.
Amado Feb 15th 2010 4:06PM
The earlier article about BM viability in Raids convinced me to dual-spec MM. It's pretty clear: when you're in a group, even in a 5-man, playing your character isn't like it is solo. Solo will be a mix of DPS and survivability that's particular to your class, spec, and playstyle -- whether that's self-healing, high armor, killing stuff fast before it kills you, or (in the case of BM) having a porta-Tank. Grouped, your role changes. And if your role is DPS, the question becomes "how can I DPS best, given my class and playstyle?"
You just don't need to be Mr. Fancypants Variety when you're there to pew-pew. Sad but true.
But note that I said *dual* spec. I'm keeping my BM spec. But why, I wondered? What amazing solo stuff will my mighty BM spec allow me to do?
Thanks for giving me my answer!
double051 Feb 15th 2010 4:12PM
Excellent article, but I think we downed that website. I don't have an 80 hunter but I do have an 80 Prot Paladin and an 80 Prot Warrior. Would love to see some old content soloing guides for these classes.
Phyalt Feb 15th 2010 6:27PM
For prot pally its just seal of light + judge light + faceroll for most of MC. Have some resist gear for shazz and 40minutes to down rags and your golden.
Phyalt Feb 15th 2010 6:29PM
edit: shadow resist for Gehennas my bad
Beruza Feb 15th 2010 4:52PM
I have been so tempted lately to start soloing instances. But I don't want to get rid of a spec. I have a raiding spec and a pvp spec, and have perfected them to the way I play over many respecs.
I guess I will just have to suck it up and respec every time I wish to solo an instance. Or maybe I should just make the solo spec and use it to pvp.
Oh, how I wish I could pay another 1000g to have three spec-options.
Dreyja Feb 15th 2010 4:50PM
Thank you very much for this. While I argued a lot over the last thread I'll admit that I've wanted to do some mega-soloing but was held back by some of these details. This build will help a lot. :)
/bow
Are there any BM hunters out there that would like to get together and share power-aura info? I'm serious. Most of the info I've found out there so far is for the other specs. :)
Dreyja Feb 15th 2010 4:50PM
also breaking in a Naga today... /happy dance