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2-16-2010 @ 2:07PM
Do warriors even tank anymore? I never see them.
2-16-2010 @ 2:35PM
It's SO hard that it becomes stressful.I have an 80 Prot Warrior, and I can barely force myself to do the Heroic daily (even though I desperately need the gear upgrades -- have you ever tried gearing a tank at 80? -- that's fricking hard too) especially when I often end up with at least 2 dps who are easily hitting 5KI'm glad that Blizzard is recognizing that something is a bit off with Warrior Tanks. It's one thing when we're shown up by Pallys, but when Every Spec of DKs can tank better than warriors, something is wrong.
2-16-2010 @ 3:23PM
I threw a comment up before on another thread about tanking, but there are stats out there that show Warrior Tanks are the most popular for progression guilds.Warrior tanking is alive and well and I would say (against the above comment on 'being hard') that now more than ever Warrior tanking is easier to do and infact the result of which is the buff to Revenge. Rotations are now effectivly three buttons - Devestate, Shield Slam and Shockwave - as we dont really need to bother with Revenge or Concussion blow.
2-16-2010 @ 3:51PM
I'm in a progression guild; our #1 tank is a warrior, and a damned excellent tank. Our second tank is a druid, and usually our offtank is a paladin (sometimes we swap in a DK into one of the roles on magic heavy encounters). We find that the warrior and druid are great at eating the big hits to the face, while the paladin is far better at controlling adds, etc.To be honest, I kind of like the way tanking is right now, for raiding at least, with viable roles for each class.Heroics are another matter of course, and I can see how if that is mostly what you do, you would see paladin tanks as hugely OPed. Most heroic runs are mindless AoE-fests as everyone races to top the damage meter, and a paladin tank is ideal.
2-16-2010 @ 4:01PM
Clundgren, thanks for refining my QQ (and frustration) into something more rational. What you said about Heroics is spot-on.As a single target tank, I have no prob whatsoever. It's the lack of a powerful AoE threat generator like Consecrate or DnD that makes running Heroics with 5Kdps"BurnSquads" unpalatable (and stressful) for me.
2-16-2010 @ 5:34PM
@paragorillabearUsually vigilance and a bit of tab targeting fixes my issues with big AoE threat producers. Heavy use of taunt as well.@BeldoroTC Demo Shout heroic strike cleave. Concussive blow and revenge deal a lot of threat and are great CC. Shield block (specced and w/ 4pc T9 = 30 Sec CD) also comes in to play frequently. Most fights, even trash have caster mobs with spells to interrupt/ reflect.If you were implying a 3 button spam-fest then you're wronge, there's much more to it than that, and if you weren't then I apologize for the misunderstanding.
2-16-2010 @ 9:04PM
Actually blue posters responded about high-end guilds having warrior tanks in a post about tanks getting switched out. High-end guilds are using warriors not for superior tanking abilities but because high end guilds tend to be well established and have long term members. The tanks in those guilds started out as warriors because pre BC there really wasn't another option. Now those same warriors are still tanking. While this is not bad news, the bad news is with people like Para. New warriors and casual guild warriors. Only mildly comforting is it that high end guilds still use warrior tanks, the truth is, it's frustrating to tank as a warrior. Other tanks put in less work to put out more numbers, better AoE threat, and bring more to the raid. This is matters to PuGgers, who comprise an ever growing population in the game.
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