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2-16-2010 @ 11:09AM
This isn't quite UI related per se, but it is to do with Addons, which is pretty much the same ball park. What I'm wondering is, if I have GearScore, to know what mine is in case a rl wants to know it before I get invited, then will downloading GearScoreBreaker prevent me from being able to see my own GearScore? If so, should I just toggle GSB off whenever I want to check?
2-16-2010 @ 11:28AM
people should be using elitist group instead of gearscore
2-16-2010 @ 11:29AM
If you're using GSB you must be against using GearScore, right? Why would you want to go on a raid if the leader is requiring GS? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of using GearScoreBreaker?
2-16-2010 @ 11:32AM
solution to your problem: don't use gearscore, don't run with people who require gearscore checks
2-16-2010 @ 11:44AM
Why even use gearscore breaker if you are actually interested your actual gearscore?You do realize GSB doesn't really work anymore either right? And that all it really did was keep people from getting into groups more so than without it?Get gear > Get higher gearscore > Get gearYou should not be entering instances you are not geared for, and you will never run into a problem with gearscore. If someone else is demanding a high GS for a raid, make a new one, screw that guy.
2-16-2010 @ 11:46AM
Why on earth would you use GS Breaker at all... that's been patched with the latest GS version. Plus if you are going to go ahead and give a RL your gear score to get into a raid then why on earth poison everyone else's data in the first place? Take a stand or quit trying to break stuff. Either tell the potential PUG to inspect you if he would like to know your gear choices or quit trying to maliciously ruin other people's tools.
2-16-2010 @ 11:48AM
Yeah or you could follow Evandrial's advice and get groups composed of a good chuck of players who either don't know the fights too well/at all (when the info/video is easily googled), or don't have adequate gear to handle the place (when things are easily crafted and bought.).Sounds like a blast :DP.S. I have a great time pugging raids and events, we just, you know... get em done :P
2-16-2010 @ 12:06PM
All gearscorebreaker does is spam the data channels used by gearscore. If you mouse over yourself, you get a gearscore from well, inspecting yourself.So you can get a valid gearscore.Of course, you probably shouldn't use an addon like GSB anyway, but that's another discussion.
2-16-2010 @ 12:26PM
@ThodinI want to know what it is for raids, where it is fair enough to want to know GS, especially at higher tiers of raiding, but I want GSB to piss off the assholes who spam it in a heroic.@traptinacivicsiActually, I checked it, it's over 5k, which is probably good enough to do ICC 10, which is what I'm aiming for.@HoggersbudGreat, that was helpful, thanks. :)
2-16-2010 @ 12:45PM
>but I want GSB to piss off the assholes who spam it in a heroic.<You are wasting your time then, as it does NOTHING to them. They're right next to you, they aren't relying on GSB's data channels.So yeah, it's not pissing off those folks, they aren't being impacted by the addon at all.You want to do something about those folks in heroics? try a macro to yell at them, it'll at least stand a chance of accomplishing something.
2-16-2010 @ 1:01PM
Ah. Damn. :(
2-16-2010 @ 2:05PM
What pisses me off about this whole Gearscore debacle is how people think it sucks because it "can be abused". Really? Seriously?These are the people who want to sue McDonalds because it made them fat. Potential for abuse does NOT mean it's bad.The people who abuse Gearscore are bad. The addon itself isn't.And don't give me the old "it doesn't take enchants/itemization in account" arguments. The latest version of Gearscore does ALL these things. It analyzes your gear in the same way Be Imba or WoW-Heroes does and if you look at the /gs inspection screen for a person, it actually gives you 3-4 gear scores, one for each potential spec/role the class can play.Most classes get 3 gearscore bars on the GS inspect screen now, one for each spec, with a % scale showing how optimally itemized they are for that spec. Druids and DKs get 4 bars, FeralDPS/FeralTank/Resto/Balance for druids and Frost/Blood/Unholy/Tank for DKs. Mousing over each bar shows you how the person's current gear itemization influences the Gearscore for that spec. There's also a large box below the bars showing the complete summation in list form of all the stats that the character is getting from its current gear.I require minimum GearScores for my raids, because it does a good job of accurately reflecting the quality of a person's gear. I also boot people from my raids who underperform despite great gear. I also invite people who don't meet my base GS expectations if I know they are capable of outstanding performance despite it.Hate the abuser, not the addon.
2-16-2010 @ 5:12PM
I totally agree with you. I want GearScore for the people who'll use it properly, and GearScoreBreaker for the abusers (and don't worry, I have no intention of using it in a high end raiding environment).
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