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2-28-2010 @ 8:55PM
Last time I checked all druids forms were carnivores.
*all basic druid forms.
2-28-2010 @ 9:24PM
All of the druid forms are carnivores except one. Bear, cat, crow, moonkin, sea lion thingy, and cheetah. The only one that isn't a carnivore is a plant, as in a vegetable, as in the thing that vegetarians eat. Druid vegetarianism is one of those things that seems sensible on the surface but on closer inspection doesn't make sense.
2-28-2010 @ 9:47PM
Boomkin - meat-tearing beak or nut-cracking beak?
2-28-2010 @ 10:10PM
If they were built to crack nuts they've certainly been re purposed to crack skulls. We know they eat meat, they may eat other things as well, but they do eat meat. And the cat they're also called owlbears should be a giveaway, since owls are predators.
2-28-2010 @ 10:16PM
the fact* that they're also called owlbears, rather, damn the wow.com comment system.
3-01-2010 @ 12:22AM
I also see druids as preserving a balance. Yes, they may protect animals from getting poached to extinction, but they wouldn't stop hunters from killing an animal that's near overpopulation for food. And like someone pointed it out, they're just as in tune with plants, why would eating meat be any weirder than eating plants?
3-01-2010 @ 1:15AM
If the druid is feral, especially cat, it would make more sense for them to eat a diet almost entirely of meat as cats are very strict carnivores (corn nomming cats on youtube aside). Bears are omnivores. Owl bears are...? Probably omnivores too, but leaning towards carnivores because owls are? Actually druids and vegetarianism makes no sense at all if you're basing it off their forms..as none of them are prey animals. As for balance. Balance in nature isn't related to abstaining from meat, it's having the right balance of predators and prey. If you have too many predators there isn't enough prey. If you don't have enough predators there will be too much prey and they will overgraze the plants (vastly simplified of course).
3-01-2010 @ 1:28AM
I know, it is some kind of cop out, but instead of saying my drood is a vegetarian I placed a food-tabu on her: she isn't allowed to eat any meat of animals she can transform into. That way she can enjoy a lot of yummy meat-dishes and annoy the heck out of her friends by asking "What's in this dish?"
3-01-2010 @ 1:57AM
That's very true. Now, a resto druid or balance druid maybe could make an argument towards vegetarianism... after all, they are about as removed from their more bestial forms as you can get (restos turn into a plant, and balance turns into a humanoid). They are more likely to care about peace and, well, balance than a feral and thus more likely to be vegetarian.Now, a feral druid is, by definition, FERAL. They are intimately connected with their animal forms who are, you guessed it, carnivores. Actually though, a bear is technically an omnivore, and by that stretch it would be funny to see a bear druid play strictly the veggie side of his omnivorian diet but be tortured by it. I can see it now. Pre-raid, everyone is buffing up. /em sniffs the air."Is that... a fish feast? It's been so long since I had fresh, juicy wild salmon.... a majestic creature, really, the salmon..."/em sighs and munches Dalaran Apple crankily.
3-01-2010 @ 2:04AM
Oh let's not forget, there are a lot of modern vegetarians who don't have a problem with eating meat on principle, but do have a problem with eating processed, commercial meat because of the way the animals are raised and slaughtered. So perhaps one could play a morally-minded druid who will only eat meat he or she has caught with their own two hands and humanely killed. You know, they crowd those Elwynn farms so much, I've been there, I've seen it, and sheep waste up to your ankles! It's disgusting! Their spirits are crying out for the free pastures and meadows!Perhaps go the whole native american route, make a point of using every part of the animal for a useful purpose. Pretend that epic armor you're wearing was made from the skin of a majestig kodo you slew in glorious battle. Your skinning knife is his tusk. Your epic staff? His femur. Pay homage to his spirit after you kill him, and kill only what you need to survive, never overkill. Etc etc.
3-01-2010 @ 4:04AM
"SnuzzleOh let's not forget, there are a lot of modern vegetarians who don't have a problem with eating meat on principle, but do have a problem with eating processed, commercial meat because of the way the animals are raised and slaughtered. So perhaps one could play a morally-minded druid who will only eat meat he or she has caught with their own two hands and humanely killed. You know, they crowd those Elwynn farms so much, I've been there, I've seen it, and sheep waste up to your ankles! It's disgusting! Their spirits are crying out for the free pastures and meadows!Perhaps go the whole native american route, make a point of using every part of the animal for a useful purpose. Pretend that epic armor you're wearing was made from the skin of a majestig kodo you slew in glorious battle. Your skinning knife is his tusk. Your epic staff? His femur. Pay homage to his spirit after you kill him, and kill only what you need to survive, never overkill. Etc etc."Ah HA! Someone actually does their research! There is, indeed, a distinct difference between the industrialized food system and more traditional "grass-fed" systems. However, by looking around in Warcraft, the more pastoral, grass-fed system seems to be the most predominant. On top of that, vegetarianism is a lifestyle that has only relatively recently cropped up, thanks to having the actual choice in food products to make up for a meat-free diet. The level of technology in Warcraft doesn't seem to be advanced enough to provide a proper meat-free diet, or even the consideration of such, particularly considering the constant threat of famine that the harsh conditions of Durotar or the threat of infection by the Scourge Plague in the old Alliance lands (as well as the issues with food supply creation and transport caused by the overrunning of Westfall by the Defias).As for anyone who wants to read an interesting book on the topic of vegetarianism and the American food system in general, I recommend the book The Omnivore's Dilemma, which is quite good and contains some rather surprising information. Personally, my rogue has no problem with meat, because he hunts for it himself, from the wild, in conditions where the originator of the meat is quite plentiful. Likewise the leathers and furs he uses in his leatherworking, which he helped produce through his hunting.
3-01-2010 @ 8:56AM
Bears are actually omnivores, not strict carnivores.
3-01-2010 @ 10:15AM
I agree with everything that others have said here, and I'll add that I don't understand the mindset that if you respect nature, you must be a vegetarian."I've seen many vegetarian druids, for example, and that idea always rings very true to me. Heck, druids are only a single button away from being animals themselves, so it would make sense that the followers of Elune might have some issue with meat-eating."Because all animals are herbivores, right? Wolves and lions are always suffering crises of conscience while they eat that deer.Maybe if druids could become stags in-game, I'd understand them being vegetarian. But cats and bears? Heck, even ravens? Not really seein' it.
3-02-2010 @ 1:28AM
I would actually love to see a tree druid that was disgusted by eating vegetables and plant life and went around preaching eating ONLY animals. >.
3-02-2010 @ 12:20PM
Wouldn't a tree druid be able to sustain itself through photosynthesis, rendering eating of any kind unnecessary? Given that this is the most efficient means to make energy (In biology, plants are called producers, while everything else is a consumer), and doesn't involve the life of anything else, it seems that this is by far the best option.
3-20-2010 @ 5:11PM
I think the argument "their forms are carnivorous so they are too" is a stupid generalization. I suppose druids would then be ok with rape, because hey, it happens in the animal kingdom. I think it's a viable trait, but not a necessary one (vegetarianism, not pro-rape unless druids can only think in their form-mind which is just as stupid as I'll rant about in a second).Then again, I hate the fact that so many druid players think they need to dumb themselves down to play feral; that their druid wouldn't be able to talk, or would lose some part of their mind after form popping too much. A few druids might experience this, maybe all have some very short term affect after it, but generally my druids are actually smart and can handle what they've been trained to do, like nearly every druid in lore.
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