Skip to Content
3-04-2010 @ 8:35AM
I really enjoy the Richard Knaak novels even more so since they drive self described literary experts (aka idiots who parrot what the cool kids say) nuts. I love the article Chris Metzen did in Kobold magazine about Knaak and the morons who call Mary sue every time his name is mentioned, Knaak himself takes it in stride ignores the haters and keeps turning out NY Times best seler after NY Times best seller.
3-04-2010 @ 9:12AM
If by "self-described literary nuts" you mean "people who've actually read good fiction both inside and outside of the fantasy/sci-fi ghetto" then, yes.Look, lots of people like books that a lot of people think are terrible. Christ, I like Anne Rice's earlier work from before she went off the deep end. I *get* the need to have the literary equivalent of the popcorn movie. But Knaak's work is so terrible on so many levels that I can only conclude that his most rabid defenders a) ONLY read video game tie-in novels from their favorite properties b) are the stereotypical fanboys that will defend to the death anything associated with said property, regardless of its merits, or c) are contrarians who get off on being special snowflakes and think they're somehow striking a blow for the proletariat by defending the literary equivalent of enemas (see also: rabid Dan Brown and Stephanie Meyers fans). So congrats on your honesty on that front, at least.Also, holding Chris Metzen up as some kind of authority as to the quality of literature is kind of hilarious. I love Warcraft lore, and I like and haMetzen, but this is a guy who forgets his own stuff by his own admission, is responsible for some of the worst character derailment in BC, and his "Mary Sue defenses" of Knaak demonstrate a vast misunderstanding of the concept. Being a good world builder does not necessarily make someone a good writer or novelist. I direct you to any number of Ed Greenwood novels as a further example.For an example of a video game tie-in novel that's actually *good*, even by non-fanboy standards, I recommend the Dragon Age novels by David Gaider. Give those novels to someone who's never played Dragon Age, and they still hold up as solid, good reads. The same absolutely can't be said for anything Knaak's done for WC.
3-04-2010 @ 9:23AM
I hear "money made" is the determing factor of artistic worth.
3-04-2010 @ 9:47AM
Eww, Anne Rice!(aka case in point)
3-04-2010 @ 10:31AM
@kyleneWhy is it that anyone who likes Knaak has to be one of those three things? I mean seriously, how condescending... I personally love the War of the Ancients series, and have liked many of the other works I've read by Knaak. I think that he is a decent writer, although I do agree that Rhonin is becoming an almost Mary Sue (but if you think about it, most Fantasy characters that span more than one series have the potential to be called this). I have read hundreds of books from many, many genres. I am an English Major and have been exposed to contrarians, which is not what anyone who likes Knaak is (for the most part).People like tons of different works by hundreds of different authors. Just because YOU don't like a person, doesn't mean that anyone who does is "contrary", a "fan-boi", or anything else. It merely means that they like something YOU don't.
3-04-2010 @ 11:05AM
Dendallin thanks I could not of put it better myself, well at least witout being a hell of a lot more condicending to kylene
3-04-2010 @ 11:31AM
Honestly, I don't see why Metzen holds Knaak in such high esteem. He fangasms over him and treats him like some sort of fantasy god, and then proceeds to piss off the players by letting him create characters like Rhonin and derailing characters like Malfurion and Tyrande.I give Metzen credit where credit is due, but honestly, his soft spot for Knaak hurts promoting WoW lore through novels more than it helps.
3-04-2010 @ 12:05PM
You mean piss off a handful of players, most of who have this ignorant perception that the name Rhonin is taken from the Japanese Ronin, when it's Galiec name. Knaak modeled the character after Rhonin the red who was a Warrior Poet and Advisor to Brian Baru an Irish King that lived in the Ninth century. In any event I hear a lot of pissing and moaning about Knaak, but it all boils down to taste wich is subjective.As a good freind told me at Blizzcon...they will raise hell about Knaak while clutching their Stephenie Meyer books close to their chests.
3-04-2010 @ 1:09PM
Sorry, but if Knaak ever got the chance to write an addendum to the Twilight series his books would be filled with nothing but the words "glittering" and "orbs."That and Edward would turn out to be Rhonin trapped in yet another time fuck-up.
3-04-2010 @ 1:30PM
@Stormdragon1. Being on the NYT bestseller list doesn't mean you wrote a good book. It just means you wrote a book that sold a lot of copies. Popular and high quality aren't necessarily the same.and2. Refusing to listen to your readers' concerns is the mark of a bad writer, sorry.
3-04-2010 @ 3:07PM
@DendallinMan, it would be dismissive of him if he claimed anyone who enjoyed it was one of those three. Thankfully, he was referring only to "his most rabid defenders". It's fine to get entertainment value out of something that has no artistic value. It seems lately people have been combining or confusing entertainment and artistic value... They're wholly separate.TL;DR Enjoy the books, no one is judging you. Defend the books as well written, and the judging will start.
First time? A confirmation email will be sent to you after submitting.
Members enter your username and password.
Enter your AOL or AIM screenname and password.
Please keep your comments relevant to this blog entry. Email addresses are never displayed, but they are required to confirm your comments.
When you enter your name and email address, you'll be sent a link to confirm your comment, and a password. To leave another comment, just use that password.
To create a live link, simply type the URL (including http://) or email address and we will make it a live link for you. You can put up to 3 URLs in your comments. Line breaks and paragraphs are automatically converted — no need to use <p> or <br /> tags.