Gold Capped: Selling with Auctioneer's Appraiser

Auctioneer is a wonderful addon I've mentioned a few times already, and today we're going to talk about how to use it to sell your goods efficiently. First up, go download and install it. Now, when you open the auction house, you will see a different interface. We'll be going over a bunch of other useful functionality this has in another post, but today, we're focusing on selling. Do a quick scan by clicking on the fast forward arrow:

You should make a point of scanning the AH this way as often as possible, but generally not more than a few times a day. I do it every two days, or whenever I need the data. This allows auctioneer to learn what items are worth in your economy, by keeping track of the listing price over time.
Selling with appraiser
You have two primary types of selling-- one where you are selling a lot of a single item, and one where you are selling a few of many types of items. In the both cases, you'll want to use the appraiser tool. Click the appraiser tab on the bottom of the AH window, and note that everything you can sell is listed to the left, and your competition is in the middle. Click the refresh button to update your scan data for just this item.

Now, the best practices for selling many types of items is to sell them in multiple types of stacks. Appraiser has a slider for stack size, and you can either enter in your own unit price manually, or use a default pricing scheme. Pricing schemes are interesting little buggers, but you are generally safe with leaving it set to "market". If you manually change your price, this will automatically change to "fixed". In case you're wondering, putting it at "market" assigns a value based on the historic price data you have for this. Personally, I tend to either undercut heavily, or if there's little stock or competition, overprice. Rarely in-between.
Note the check box for "enable price matching"- we'll go over configuring this in a sec, but be aware that this will try to undercut you competitors.

Selling automatically
In appraiser, you also have the ability to automatically post a bunch of different types items. It takes a bit of setting up, but once you do it once, you can log in and post all your tagged auto-post items automatically with a single click. First, we need to configure our undercut settings. To set it up so you undercut everything by 10.5% when you check "enable price matching", click the "configure" button at the top, and you will find the appraiser settings. You can leave these mostly default, however I like to change the bid percent to 0%, so it always prices bid and buyout the same.

Now click on the "match modules" category, then on "Undercut". This page is where we specify the default undercutting behavior.

The most important part of this is the undercut percent -- you could alternately choose to undercut by a certain fixed value (like, say, one copper). Also important are the sliders just above that. The first one is how far below market price undercut will function, and the second one is how much it will mark up above market value if you have no competition. I find 100% and 75% suit my needs.
The way you see it set up here, whenever that box is checked, it will always undercut the lowest auction by 10.5%, and if I have no competition, will add a 75% markup over my pricing scheme (fixed or market, depending on the product).
Now that we have our undercutting configured, select each item on the left you want to automate, and check the "enable batch posting" box. Set the quantity and stack size for each one (ideally this will not change), and then check "enable price matching". Now we need price data. If your scan is still fresh, you can just skip this step, but if you only want to scan the items in your bag, alt-click the "Batch post" button. This will refresh the data for any item you've flagged for batch posting. Once your data is good, you batch post everything you marked in the first step by ctrl-alt-shift-clicking the same button.

Reinventing the ... what?
Auctioneer's batch posting is an extremely powerful tool that lets you participate in way more markets than if you had to do everything manually. This function is also performed very well by other addons like QuickAuctions 3, however I'll detail this in another post. The reason I still use Auctioneer for many non-glyph markets that require batch posting is that Auctioneer doesn't need to have a custom fallback price for each and every product you sell. The price matching function will default back to a value based on market price.
For example: it's fine in the glyph market to have all of your glyphs fall back to, say, 40g if you have no competition. If you're dealing in raw gems, however, you'd have to go and manually manage the fallback price for all your gem categories: rare, epic, and uncommon for each type of ore you prospect.
Nothing's perfect
One notable missing feature in Auctioneer is the ability to mass-cancel auctions. I have a quick and dirty solution for this (of course): a couple of little scripts:
This one cancels all auctions by name:
/run local i=1;local n=1;while n ~= nil do n=GetAuctionItemInfo("owner",i);if n~=nil and strfind(n,"^Scroll") then CancelAuction(i) end i=i+1 end I simply change "^Scroll" to whatever it is I need to cancel. Here's another one you can use to cancel based on time left:
/script local o="owner" p=GetNumAuctionItems(o) i=p while (i>0) do local _,_,c,_,_,_,_,_,_,b,_,_=GetAuctionItemInfo(o,i) t=GetAuctionItemTimeLeft(o,i) if((c>0)and(b==0)and(t<2))then CancelAuction(i) end i=i-1 end This will cancel any auctions that say have a short ("30m") or medium ("2h") time left. You can simply change the section where it says "t<2" to suit your needs. "t==3" will cancel all auctions with a long ("2h-12h") time left, but leave all the short, medium, and very long auctions (t==4) alone.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
sprout_daddy Mar 6th 2010 4:15PM
I abandoned Auctioneer a while ago, and I'm glad I did. I think most articles about auction house mechanics assume it's the only game in town, as did I, but I came upon Auctionator a few months ago and I'm thrilled with it. Auctioneer was, even in it's lite configurations, a resource and memory hog, and it always had more stuff than I needed, despite lots of activity on the AH.
Auctionator handles scanning, price management, posting, and many other events (and when it comes to selling, I think it does a better job than Auctioneer) and doesn't bog down my system. You may want to mention it as an alternative.
Ant Mar 6th 2010 4:48PM
Agreed.
Auctioneer is good Auctionator is better, at least for my purposes.
Kittens Mar 6th 2010 5:30PM
Agreed.
I switched to Auctionator quite some time ago after they had upgraded Auctioneer to this version, which is overly complicated imo. Auctioneer used to be an easy to use addon which did not require you to study what the heck those millions of options actually do. I can understand the hardcore AH players wanting all the options, but for me it became a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees anymore.
And apart from having it check what items were worth for me, the main reason I used Auctioneer back then was that it could also scan the AH for hugely underpriced items which I would buy up and resell. They took out that option when they upgraded to this one (...why?! I still don't get why they would leave such a hugely popular function out). I also very much dislike the interface Autioneer sports now, it's messy and unclear at a glance.
So yes, switch to nice and simple Auctionator for me, I love it. Even if it does not do the underpriced items finding thingy either.
Faulken S Wulf Mar 6th 2010 5:31PM
I only use Auctioneer for the "percentages" on the right side for buying that show me what is the best deal regardless of stack size. Is there a lighter addon that allows for this same function. It is literally the ONLY thing I use the addon for.
mcgruber Mar 6th 2010 6:14PM
Horses for courses:
Auctioneer= Scalpel
Auctionator= Butter Knife
QA3=Some other type of cutlery, you get the point.
I actually use all three of these and Addon control panel so I can turn them off when raiding. What would be nice is if these authors got together and made one auction addon to rule them all. Combining the intuitive interface of Auctionator with the features of Auctioneer and QA3.
martinwii Mar 6th 2010 8:26PM
Yeah I stoppped using auctioneer for over half a year because of its confusing system and how much memory it was using. Then I switched to auctionator, really easy and friendly to use. Auctioneer sucks.
Basil Berntsen Mar 6th 2010 10:37PM
@mcgruber: QA3 = canon with knives instead of shot.
wyzim Mar 7th 2010 12:27PM
I use auction addons only on my bank account.
Eddie Mar 6th 2010 4:17PM
I find it funny that people will download another addon to do something that auctioneer already does... auto sell vender trash? check, auto batch post? check... and many more
This addon is so huge people dont realize how much it does.
Eddie Mar 6th 2010 4:19PM
and yes its a memory hog, but I'm willing to bet that you have a few addons that do what this one already does. :)
analogkid Mar 6th 2010 4:30PM
Auctioneer is a memory hog, but I use Addon Control Panel, so when I get my stuff reason to auction, I just turn on my auction addons, post what I need to and then shut them off.
Falcon6 Mar 6th 2010 4:26PM
I'd actually like a comprehensive list of all the stuff Auctioneer does that other addons don't. Hell, it might end up being easier on my system to just go with Auctioneer...hehe.
Basil Berntsen Mar 6th 2010 10:46PM
I'm getting there! I have plans to write up guides on how to do just about anything with Auctioneer. I will also write up guides for the other addons I use.
grimace Mar 6th 2010 4:32PM
Very quick edit: In the very last paragraph, you mean "t==3" and "t==4". It might not be obvious to non-scripters.
Also @sprout_daddy: Who cares if auctioneer bogs down your system? You only need it on your auction mules anyway, and they can safely turn off most of your other addons. I'm not saying one or the other is better. I'm just saying that auction mods are probably one of the few addons where memory use isn't a problem.
Basil Berntsen Mar 6th 2010 10:50PM
Thanks, good catch. I have had it as a "less than" for so long I forgot about how the "==" is for comparison.
Cmidrfti Mar 6th 2010 5:01PM
Auctioneer is a memory hog? I must not be using enough other add ons to notice then. Never had a problem running a vast montage of add ons and always having auctioneer there just in case. I am memory capped for a 32 bit system if that makes any difference.
Magma Mar 6th 2010 5:12PM
Yeah..I'd wager to say the only people who would have memory issues with addons are those that need to update parts/get a new computer. Even a basic one in this time should be able to easily handle any addon.
chris Mar 7th 2010 12:22PM
either that or some people for some reason think that if they are using more then 20% ram there is a problem.
ram is there to be used, otherwise whats the point of having 4 gigs of it.
and its 2010 people, if you are having memory problems with wow, a game that came out what? 5 or 6 years ago. i think its time to upgrade.
Wellsee Mar 6th 2010 5:08PM
Thanks for the article. I use the AH a lot to buy stuff to disenchant and then sell the materials, but had never tried the Appraiser panel. I just used this to set it up and posted about 30 auctions.
As far as being a memory hog, I don't have any problems, and I have lots of addons.
Jeremy S. Mar 6th 2010 5:26PM
Thank you for this article. I've been wanting to jump in the deep end with playing the market and this helps a lot.
I've looked at a lot of auction addons, and to me this is a very robust(albeit overweight) addon that gives me the tools to play "Uber-marketeer".