Know Your Lore: The Green Dragonflight Page 2

The War of the Shifting Sands came as a surprise to the green dragons, but they still signed up to fight in it. It's important to remember that, while the war is a thousand years past (and thus fairly remote to, say, humans) to the nearly immortal night elves and green dragons who exist in the timeless Emerald Dream and as such rarely age, it's barely over. The green dragonflight sent Merithra of the Dream to help in the battle against C'thun and his minions. Sadly for the green dragons, Ysera's daughter was forced to lead a charge alongside Arygos of the Blue Flight and Caelestrasz of the Red, giving the bronze dragons and night elves time to seal the Ahn'Qiraj inside their own city complex at the cost of being trapped within forever themselves. After this, when Fandral Staghelm shattered the scepter entrusted to him by Anachronos, a fragment of it was entrusted to Eranikus himself.
It's known that Eranikus and his brother Itharius were entrusted by Ysera to deal with the corruption of the troll god Hakkar the Soulflayer and prevent him from escaping the Sunken Temple created when Ysera smashed the Atali and their temple below the waters in the Swamp of Sorrows. What is at present unknown is the connections between various vile forces: is Hakkar an old god, an agent of one, or otherwise related to them? How does he relate to the Nightmare? Somehow, while Eranikus managed to destroy the god's physical form, he was corrupted and his dreaming shade imprisoned within the temple, to be later found by adventurers and destroyed, freeing his chained essence. (To step out of lore mode for a moment, the fact that the quest line just stops dead in Winterspring is annoying to me personally.) Later, a vision of Malfurion Stormrage himself reveals that Eranikus' corruption is tied to that of the Nightmare, which means... what? How does this relate to Hakkar? We can speculate, of course (given recent events in lore - I am now linking to two spoiler heavy reviews of the new book Stormrage so if you click these links it's your own fault, I warned you) but in the end we keep getting hints that lead to figures that then hint at deeper evils offstage.
Whatever the Green Dragonflight is facing in the Dream, it's powerful, malevolent and can warp even the strongest members of Ysera's brood (the aforementioned Dragons of Nightmare and even Eranikus himself): it's understandable that with an enemy like that or old gods trapping members of the flight in Ahn'Qiraj, the greens didn't pay too much attention to the events of the First and Second Wars. What interests me (and what I've never really seen answered anywhere) is this: do orcs and draenei in Azeroth go to the Emerald Dream when they dream? Are they somehow 'outside' the green dragon's jurisdiction or in coming to Azeroth have they made themselves part of the spiritual blueprint of Azeroth even though they were never intended to be a part of it? Certainly the green dragons haven't expressed an opinion on this.
We know that Ysera was restored to her full power following the destruction of the Demon Soul in the great battle with Deathwing outside Grim Batol, when she finally listened to the entreaties of Korialstrasz, the consort of her sister Alexstrasza. (Just as is the case with Malygos, it's unclear if they actually are siblings or just call themselves that.) It's also the case that there was little to no reaction during the Legion's invasion of Mount Hyjal during the Third War, even though the druids themselves responded and Malfurion chose to yet again blow up something hugely magical to stop them.
In the aftermath of the world tree's destruction Ysera refused to bless the replacement planned by Frandal Staghelm, perhaps due to his disrespect during the War of the Shifting Sands, a general desire to avoid giving the night elves another giant magical thing to blow up, or even possibly related to the ultimate fate of Vordrassil in Northrend (since Ysera and her brood were aware of events there due to their role protecting the Great Tree to the Emerald Dream in Crystalsong Forest).
At present, while Ysera appears to sleep in the Emerald Dragonshrine in Northrend, but her flight is far from resting. Between battling the corruption of the Nightmare, being kidnapped and tortured by the Scourge, dealing with Blue Dragonflight forces that recently laid siege to Wyrmrest Temple or guarding various sites of importance to the Dream (such as the aforementioned Great Trees) they're a remarkably active bunch of sleepers.
It's known that Eranikus and his brother Itharius were entrusted by Ysera to deal with the corruption of the troll god Hakkar the Soulflayer and prevent him from escaping the Sunken Temple created when Ysera smashed the Atali and their temple below the waters in the Swamp of Sorrows. What is at present unknown is the connections between various vile forces: is Hakkar an old god, an agent of one, or otherwise related to them? How does he relate to the Nightmare? Somehow, while Eranikus managed to destroy the god's physical form, he was corrupted and his dreaming shade imprisoned within the temple, to be later found by adventurers and destroyed, freeing his chained essence. (To step out of lore mode for a moment, the fact that the quest line just stops dead in Winterspring is annoying to me personally.) Later, a vision of Malfurion Stormrage himself reveals that Eranikus' corruption is tied to that of the Nightmare, which means... what? How does this relate to Hakkar? We can speculate, of course (given recent events in lore - I am now linking to two spoiler heavy reviews of the new book Stormrage so if you click these links it's your own fault, I warned you) but in the end we keep getting hints that lead to figures that then hint at deeper evils offstage.
Whatever the Green Dragonflight is facing in the Dream, it's powerful, malevolent and can warp even the strongest members of Ysera's brood (the aforementioned Dragons of Nightmare and even Eranikus himself): it's understandable that with an enemy like that or old gods trapping members of the flight in Ahn'Qiraj, the greens didn't pay too much attention to the events of the First and Second Wars. What interests me (and what I've never really seen answered anywhere) is this: do orcs and draenei in Azeroth go to the Emerald Dream when they dream? Are they somehow 'outside' the green dragon's jurisdiction or in coming to Azeroth have they made themselves part of the spiritual blueprint of Azeroth even though they were never intended to be a part of it? Certainly the green dragons haven't expressed an opinion on this.
We know that Ysera was restored to her full power following the destruction of the Demon Soul in the great battle with Deathwing outside Grim Batol, when she finally listened to the entreaties of Korialstrasz, the consort of her sister Alexstrasza. (Just as is the case with Malygos, it's unclear if they actually are siblings or just call themselves that.) It's also the case that there was little to no reaction during the Legion's invasion of Mount Hyjal during the Third War, even though the druids themselves responded and Malfurion chose to yet again blow up something hugely magical to stop them.
In the aftermath of the world tree's destruction Ysera refused to bless the replacement planned by Frandal Staghelm, perhaps due to his disrespect during the War of the Shifting Sands, a general desire to avoid giving the night elves another giant magical thing to blow up, or even possibly related to the ultimate fate of Vordrassil in Northrend (since Ysera and her brood were aware of events there due to their role protecting the Great Tree to the Emerald Dream in Crystalsong Forest).
At present, while Ysera appears to sleep in the Emerald Dragonshrine in Northrend, but her flight is far from resting. Between battling the corruption of the Nightmare, being kidnapped and tortured by the Scourge, dealing with Blue Dragonflight forces that recently laid siege to Wyrmrest Temple or guarding various sites of importance to the Dream (such as the aforementioned Great Trees) they're a remarkably active bunch of sleepers.






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Mattman Mar 10th 2010 3:22PM
Okay... This may be a really ignorant question that you have already covered....
You write "nearly immortal" night elves. I always assumes they were immortal unless killed... Is that statement referring to this it some other form of mortality?
Thanks mate!!
Alanid Mar 10th 2010 3:36PM
They used to be immortal thanks to the world tree Nordrassil, but then in order to stop the legion in the 3rd war they blew it up along with the new well of eternity underneath it, and they lost they're immortality. Whilst they were immortal however they could still be killed by giving them a good stab or two - the night elves version of immortal is simply being ageless.
Felix_NZ Mar 10th 2010 4:33PM
Immortal, not invulnerable (won't die unless killed) Same as the elves in Tolkein fiction.
Orrine Mar 12th 2010 8:33AM
The Tree and the Well were not blown, only Archimonde. The Great Tree was just burned and now slowly regrowths, and the Well on Hyjal is very much intact. It's destruction would lead to second Sundering.
Sicadastra Mar 10th 2010 3:26PM
I've always felt that the green dragonflight doesn't make a lot of sense. Sort of feels like a "we need green dragons" or "we need a 5th dragonflight" or "we need a reason for druids to be asleep" kinda thing.
Also, dragons sure are easy to corrupt or drive insane... wonder what will finally turn Big Red against us in patch 8.0, "World of Warcraft: We ran out of bad guys".
bob Mar 10th 2010 3:42PM
To be fair, it has usually taken the cursed whispering of ancient evils tied to the very bones of the world or betrayal and genocide to drive a dragon crazy.
Artificial Mar 10th 2010 4:45PM
Well, it's one of the deeper parts of WoW lore, incorporating into it elements from real-world mysticism that are unfamiliar to many westerners. Thus, it will tend to make less sense to people who are largely ignorant of other cultures and concepts. The more ignorant among them are likely to blame Blizzard's laziness for this, rather than acknowledging their own rather shallow knowledge. When something doesn't make sense to someone, it's usually because the someone it doesn't make sense to is lacking some knowledge, but it's amazing how many people assume the shortcoming is on the other side, implicitly rejecting the idea that there's anything they don't know. If you think you're the center of the universe, it's simply not possible that something doesn't make sense because you're missing something... you are everything, right? Likewise if something is not to your taste, it's due to Blizzard's incompetence for not catering precisely to your tastes, right? :p
Snark Mar 10th 2010 5:03PM
Takes some mighty fine reasoning to turn "How are some of the most powerful beings, set up by the Titans themselves, so easily turned?" into a hate filled diatribe.
Sicadastra Mar 10th 2010 5:18PM
@Artificial
Yeah, my comment was about how the Green Dragonflight is poorly integrated into the Warcraft lore, but thanks for your assumption that I'm a fat lazy American with no edumacation 'bout nothin' but Jesus, Coca-Cola, and American Idol. Next time you make a poorly researched accusation about someone thinking they're the center of the universe, try to do it with less self-important douchebaggery. The irony is distracting.
@bob
Really just joking about the various state of "bad" each aspect seems to find itself in. Ysera is under attack from some mysterious corruption, Malygos has gone insane, Nozdormu is up to something, and ye olde Deathwing really needs no explanation. Poor Alexstrasza seems to be the only Dragon currently doing her "job" without negative influence or malice towards others... and speaking as a Horde player, her ability to forgive is staggering.
brian Mar 11th 2010 12:41AM
Yeah, the greens do get overshadowed by the reds. The reds get to be the big heroes most of the time, guardians of life and all, while the greens get to sleep, and be guardians of life...but different.
I guess the distinction is that the reds are more guardians of the living, as in people. Then the greens are guardians of nature, and more or less the world as a whole. Life as a concept can be rather vague.
Euip Mar 10th 2010 3:28PM
I think he means nearly immortal as in they have an increadibly long lifespan, though i was under the impression that they were infact immortal up untill the world tree was destroyed
Alanid Mar 10th 2010 3:37PM
they could be killed if you stabbed them a few times - but they were the ageless version of immortal.
Prinnygod Mar 10th 2010 3:40PM
Even though there is not a ton of information on the Emerald Dream and the Green Dragonflight, this post was still very informative and well-written. I could have done without the random breaks in the flow: e.g. the links to the books, your question about the Orcs and Draenei, and your longing to use 'malefic'. Either way I thoroughly enjoyed this read and am looking forward to the next (and final?) installment in the Dragonflight Saga.
P.S. I do think that the Orcs and Draenei go to the Emerald Dream when they dream. It's not about where you came from when you dream, as much as where you are when you dream. And also, as you said, things that happen in real-world Azeroth affect the Emerald Dream in some way.
adam Mar 10th 2010 3:54PM
With out giving to much away in Stormrage the nightmare is able to hold orcs and dranaei alike now granted thats the Nightmare and not the Dream. I would go on the assumption that since the dranaei and orcs are now part of Azeroth they would be mirrored into the dream also. Just speculation havent seen this written anywhere just kinda of basing it off of the events in Stormrage.
Celamorne Mar 10th 2010 3:50PM
Immortal is probably a judgment call by those who aren't (ie Humans). To us, 500 years is pretty good for age, and we are long dead at that point. For example, the Revolutionary War happened less than 250 years ago. So in the human perspective, the elves are still immortal. The elves are well aware of the literal truth, though.
Just my perspective.
Angus Mar 11th 2010 1:23AM
No, they really were immortal without outside measures.
Diseases, aging, all of that sorta stuff simply didn't mess with them.
Stabby metal would.
When the people responsible for the destruction of continents are still hanging out in prison after THOUSANDS of years and haven't aged a day, they are pretty much never going to.
Celamorne Mar 11th 2010 9:02AM
So the destruction of the world tree did what (this is true curiosity)? What part of their immortality did they lose?
Orrine Mar 12th 2010 8:43AM
@Angus
No, they were not immortal. World Tree and Nozdormu gave them immortality.
ElrithCC Mar 10th 2010 3:54PM
I don't understand why you want to trivialize the sacrifice of Nordrassil as some kind of brash irresponsible folly. The intended narrative of the story clearly meant for this to be a great sacrifice that came about when they had run out of options. It's supposed to be a pure and selfless act, the sacrifice of the few to protect the many. The armchair quarterback lore critics will twist anything it seems to support their bizarre virtual bigotry. It is strange to me to see people judging the merit of a tale by comparing what they themselves would have done in a situation as opposed to actually learning and understanding the way another mind entirely perceives and handles reality. It's the journey, what drives a character to make those choices, that's what you're supposed to be enjoying and exploring. All too often it seems I am finding people more interested with the most efficient and self asserting solution than an exploration of character development. I guess it's snarky and clever to view it all through the lens of contemporary culture and reason, but it's just killing the spirit of fantasy up to a point.
It's a shame to see themes and archetypes dismissed as homogenization.
I suppose I will soon be darkened into forum post oblivion, but maybe a few peeps will nod their heads out there in agreement.
Matthew Rossi Mar 10th 2010 3:57PM
Or I was making a mild joke at the tendency of the night elves to blow up the biggest source of magic they can find in the presence of the Burning Legion, like, say, a Well of Eternity and then a World Tree grown in the next Well of Eternity?