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3-15-2010 @ 11:16AM
If your guild is serious enough about raiding to be even facing these issues, you need to realise that looted gear is not a reward for an individual. It is a tool to help the whole guild progress better. Giving tanking gear to a non-tank is treating it like a reward. It should have gone to your tank, to help him tank better next time you all raid. When the healer won the weapon, he should have equipped it to help him heal better, because that helps the whole guild. He shouldn't have the choice to sell it and buy his epic mount, that is treating it like a personal reward.
3-15-2010 @ 1:28PM
All great points. What Blizz should add is a way for the Officers in a guild to "revoke" items looted to people for just those situations. "Anyone in the raid want this thing for 6K? I need my epic flyer."*Rolfstomp revokes Dnozzles [Leet Healing Mace of Leetness]**Rolfstomp kicks Dnozzle from the guild*It can use the same timer for trading the BoP items within a run, so you can't do it indefinitely.Sure this may have HUGE issues with pugs, so maybe only allowing this feature for guild members only. And if an officer ninja's the loot from you for no good reason and gives it to someone else, do you want to stay in a guild of ninja's anyway?I just think it would be a great idea to take back an item from some dbag that won't be using it and refuses to give it up to benefit the guild as a whole.
3-15-2010 @ 4:14PM
Barinthos - while I like the idea of revoking items from uncooperative players, the ramifications of implementing such a system would likely be overwhelmingly negative. For example: consider a guild RUN by d-bags. They could invite new members, let them raid, then steal the loot and gkick. Another example: an officer has a personal grudge against a member and convinces the other officers to revoke loot because of it. It's probably better to expect officers to be responsible about loot distribution and have the occasional d-bag game the system (and get gkicked as a result) than to impose a system in which players can game the system without consequences (apart from a bad reputation).
3-16-2010 @ 12:15AM
Totally this.Except I would also have called the Raid Leader/Guild Leader a couple of window lickers for letting a non tank roll on tanking gear.In our guild it's like this:1st need rolls for main spec2nd rolls for off spec3rd DEEasy. And the pally/druid who rolled for the tanking gear shouldn't have done so anyway unless s/he wanted to tank...And the healer who wanted to sell that mace should either be /gkick'ed or be given a stern warning...
3-17-2010 @ 2:30AM
I would agree to you, happened to me in a Black Temple PUG I ran with a couple of 80's and level 75's (including me). A DK kept rolling on everything including heal,caster, tank gear where infact he was a DPS. I tried to point that out many times in the raid and got no response from the Raid Leader who was either busy tanking or looting (Master Looter). Even I rolled by mistake on two items I didn't wanted, I asked if someone wanted it for their levelling etc. Gave the bow to a hunter and Pauldrons Armor Token to a priest. I always pass things that I don't need but people are becoming extremely selfish especially in cross-server PUGS & even on same-server PUGS. They just roll greed on everything that pops up. All in all I got 1 2H Mace, 1 Leg Armor, 1 Ring and 2 epic gems which is not bad as the gear helped me increase my DPS.
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