15 Minutes of Fame: 76-year-old player relies on strategy

Who's the oldest player you know? WoW's player base is so immense today that most of us know someone over age 50 who plays. These older folks most often turn out to be friends-and-family style players, tucked away among other family members -- grown sons and daughters, grandchildren, nieces and nephews -- using World of Warcraft to connect with family members across the generations and the miles. Finding an older player who's come to the game on his own terms can be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
When we finally got wind of septuagenarian player Loyal Leitgen, we knew we'd found a player who could give us a fresh perspective on the older player's point of view. He hadn't been introduced to the game by the younger generation -- in fact, he'd been the one to usher his grown sons into the game. The problem was, we couldn't interview him until we could catch up with him. When we fired off our first e-mail, he'd just left the United States and was bound for Switzerland. We finally tracked down the energetic retiree in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where he was visiting one of his sons who was working on an international business venture. We chatted with him on Skype to learn why the 76-year-old gamer thinks WoW offers something for everyone.
Leitgen's character, a 52nd-level warrior named Norseman, has been on hiatus for several months now. (We suspect he's the inactive troll warrior listed on US Shadowsong, although Leitgen couldn't confirm the realm name after his time away from the game.) "I've been playing for quite some time now, but I quit during the last few months," he explains. "I think I'm a little over my head in it right now, to be honest about it."
Into the Warcraft universeA gaming novice, Leitgen dipped into games with WoW's real-time strategy predecessor, Warcraft 2. "It worked for me because it was a strategy game, and I didn't have to move the mouse super-fast, there wasn't someone out-mousing me," he says. "And I liked it. Then when World of Warcraft came out, I thought, 'Well, I'll have a go at that.'"
Diving into an MMO proved enjoyable but almost overwhelming to a relatively computer-illiterate older player. "It took me a while to figure out what was all going on," he admits, "but after a while I managed it. It's a great game, no question in my mind; it's pretty hard to beat. But there are so many things going on that I don't know about that."
Somewhat stymied, he bought copies of the game for his grown sons, who quickly caught the fire. "I got up to 52," he says. "I had a lot of help from my sons and the other guys they played with. They gave me weapons and stuff. I'm a bit over my head right now. I probably would have been better off doing everything on my own."
Leitgen admits that a warrior was probably not the most fortuitous choice for the slower, more analytical approach of an older player. "First of all, I'm not that computer literate, so I can't move the mouse as fast as kids can," he admits. "Then I have a little problem, and I have to stop and interpret what's going on, on the screen. On the other side, my strategies aren't too bad. I can hold my own there. But he gets into a closeup fight and hell, I'm hitting the wrong guy or some crap like that."
The biggest drawback Leitgen sees for older players is the twitch reaction required for quick mouse movement. "I generally avoided playing with strangers, even though they might be of the same level," he admits. "I was nowhere near 'mouse- or screen-able' as they were."

Back for more?
Leitgen's currently on hiatus from WoW. His primary play partners, his sons, have both moved on -- one to Ethiopia (where the time difference throws a monkey wrench into meetups) and the other to higher levels where Leitgen no longer feels comfortable playing. "So I'm a little bit on my own," he notes. "It's a terrific game but currently exceeds my competence on the computer."
Leitgen brightened upon learning about the upcoming Cataclysm expansion and the features designed to streamline and guide play for lower level players. The idea of re-starting and working his way through the tutorials on his own seemed to intrigue the strategist in him. "I think I will try again," he nods. "You might suggest for old buzzards like me some way for a little better tutoring and so on. It's a super-huge game. I'm just an amateur, really. It's a great game for older people, really. It has something for everybody."
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
AltairAntares Mar 16th 2010 1:09PM
Interesting article, though it is amusing that you interviewed a player that isn't a player anymore. :p
Marie Acton Mar 16th 2010 1:12PM
Bravo!!
Florimel Mar 16th 2010 1:14PM
I'm over 50 and I'm raiding ICC -- and not a friends and family player either! I'm one of our top dps...
jfofla Mar 16th 2010 1:36PM
I am over 50, raiding ICC 10 and 25 with over 8000 Achievement Points, so I am not casual either.
tehgoatboi Mar 16th 2010 2:13PM
cool story pops
dinnercoat Mar 16th 2010 3:04PM
...where's my Werthers for listening to your story?
Oh I kid, I kid ...
BigBadGooz Mar 16th 2010 3:15PM
Okay I'll say it *looks around*.
GET OFF MY LAWN IM RAIDING. *drinks his metamucil*
treyodos Mar 16th 2010 4:42PM
rofalf u too olelde two pleh wow, y u not goi pleh bingo instad nerbo.
Flipside Mar 16th 2010 11:26PM
And based on your spelling, you're a bit too young.
Adoisin Mar 17th 2010 10:08AM
Considering I got my cookies handed to me in a big dueling contest not too long ago by a 68 year old player, I don't think any age is too old to enjoy WoW. It's up to the individual to decide what play style they prefer best. /shrug
Sqrly Mar 16th 2010 1:16PM
Perhaps you should do an article on mice. I use a logitech trackball that has the ball under my thumb then regular mouse buttons. No mouse movement at all, just a "twitch" of your thumb.
Hëx Mar 16th 2010 1:16PM
I sincerely hope that Blizzard reads this interview and takes into account older players slower paced, strategic style when designing future expansions and MMOs. I'd like to be still playing when I hit my 70s. Although this guy might want to look into changing classes, perhaps a ranged DPS. This would give him the opportunity to observe the whole situation and be a bit more strategic.
johnny Mar 16th 2010 1:24PM
Designing a game for older people sounds retarded. I'm sorry but when you make a product you have a demographic, or a target market. WoW does NOT need to be for everyone. Your gonna fuck over the 7 million other players just so you can make a few old people happy. Sorry but maybe he should go play myst or some kind of thinking game if that's what he wants. WoW was not directed or marketed towards him. It does not appeal to his generation at all. A few old people like the game and want to play it, great for them. But blizzard better NEVER have the idea of changing anything for them.
jfofla Mar 16th 2010 1:38PM
Dear Johnny,
Your teenage nerd rage is showing.
Have a nice day!
Old and wise WOW player
venumus1 Mar 16th 2010 2:25PM
@Johnny
you sir, are an idiot.
swimstarguy Mar 16th 2010 1:54PM
Why was Johnny downrated? He's right.
The target market/largest group isn't older folks who cant use mice. Besides, many older people can use them just fine.
Why change the game for a small part of a small part of the player base? That's stupid.
Hëx Mar 16th 2010 2:03PM
@johnney
Blizzard designs for all kinds of players: young and old, able bodied and physically challenged. Judging by your comment, I'm glad to see the mentally/emotionally challenged have no problem playing WoW.
caelwynn Mar 16th 2010 2:31PM
@ Johnny
And you think games should be catered to you and your middle school friends? If your looking for that, I'm pretty sure there's IMVU. Go play dress up.
Hoggersbud Mar 16th 2010 2:53PM
Dear responders to Johnny who decided the best response to him was to be...at least as immature as his, you should give some thought about how you responded.
I don't think Johnny's comment was the most mature, or diplomatic way to state his position, but that doesn't excuse the conduct of others. Yours is still shameful.
Disagree, but don't bash.
Extrox Mar 16th 2010 3:04PM
I'm rather amused at both the comments who "know" what the target audience is.
I don't recall Blizzard stating their target demographic, not to mention the average age played is 25-27 years old according to The Daedalus Project.
I guess that means that all you, and myself included (alas I'm only 23) hoodlums under the age of 25 shouldn't be playing?
Honestly, I see this game being targeted at the same demographic age scaled with the originals. Meaning, they're target audience would be the same people that appreciated the original 3 games. This game wasn't always that popular nor did it have much to advertise itself with except it's lore and such that their present fans would know.
TL;DR: Don't give crap about targeting a game around older people. One targeted at an older generation is sure as heck going to be more interesting than one targeted at a younger one. This game was focused on the original older fans, not the bandwagoners.