Breakfast Topic: What would the ultimate raid be?

- Deathwing. Frankly, if they do this fight the justice the character deserves, the fight will be so awesome that it may destroy my WoW installation upon finishing it. Deathwing is a character I've wanted to see more done with since our old days raiding BWL. I want cinematics, unique models, unique music, new mechanics, the works. I'm actually somewhat nervous about this character and hope his entrance in Cataclysm feels as portentous as it should.
- Sargeras. We've yet to actually see Sargeras himself in the game. His spirit is supposedly drifting in the Twisting Nether, unable to access his original form, so will we eventually end up fighting him twice? Will we have to try and stop him from reclaiming his original titanic form and power, and then fight him later once he does? And will we even be on Azeroth when the confrontation takes place, since for him to enter our world bodily seems to take a massive amount of power (see the original Well of Eternity)?
- Azshara. I really dig the Naga and I want to see more done with them. I know we'll have underwater cities and such in Cataclysm, but I'm eager to get to see the main event, so to speak. And Azshara ties well into the whole Sundering/Well of Eternity legacy which would make for all sorts of story hooks. I'm eager to see this character make an onscreen appearance in WoW.
- Someone new entirely. Old gods and established lore characters are great, but one of the things that Vanilla WoW did was provide us with new or expanded enemies to fight and I'd like to see more of that. Nefarian and Onyxia, Ragnaros, even C'Thun were all new to World of Warcraft itself (although the Black Dragonflight and Old Gods weren't.) There's no reason something else from the Twisted Nether or Great Dark Beyond couldn't menace Azeroth, or some mortal wizard or warrior couldn't acquire vast power and become a threat. The Lich King had ties to the previous two Warcraft games but was new at the same time. Let's see something like that happen again and an entirely new menace confront us.
- The Gronn. I kind of feel like the Gronn got short shrift in Burning Crusade. Here are these gigantic, semi-immortal beings of immense size and power, strong enough to go toe to toe with potent dragons and led by Gruul, who mysteriously has seven 'sons' (I can't tell Gronn genders, man, for all I know they use parthenogenesis to reproduce) each nearly as massive and vicious as he is. In Beyond the Dark Portal, Gruul is supposedly smart enough to know how to use the Alliance to help him defeat Deathwing, but in the game he's just kind of a drooling idiot. I'd enjoy a raid that dealt with the true origins of the ogres, their relation to the Gronn, and where the Gronn lords and Gruul actually came from.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 8)
nomnomnomnom Mar 20th 2010 8:07AM
you should have put this one through the spell checker first rossi
GardenOfRage Mar 20th 2010 8:32AM
I think it would be more constructive to point the author in the right direction rather than QQ'ing in my first read through I only noticed two small issues:
From #4, "C'thun was" instead of were
From #5, Missing an "L" from tell on the bit about Gronn genders.
I hastily forgave the above issues due to the fact this is a wonderfully written topic. I too am excited for Deathwing. (HC SVNT DRACONES!)
I'm excited for possible new lore too, maybe some new interlopers for my band of Bloodsail comrades to plunder and pillage.
Anuillae Mar 20th 2010 10:46AM
well, actually the 'C'Thun were' is fine, because although the 'even' makes the grammar a tiny bit sketchy, the were includes all the bosses listed before C'Thun as well.
Nazgûl Mar 20th 2010 10:01AM
Nice Latin there. Not used to seeing the "V" in place of the "U".
splodesondeath Mar 20th 2010 10:45AM
The "V" is from written Latin. It basically made "V" have a consonant and vowel form, just like "I" before "J" was invented in the Middle Ages.
GardenOfRage Mar 20th 2010 11:24AM
@Anuillae
Good call, the "even" threw me for a loop.
Slaytanic Mar 20th 2010 12:10PM
Grammar Nazis ftl.
Must be a slow day in Trade.
Think I'll stick with the topic.
Emerald Dream.
And I hope the 4 dragons get buffed for lvl 85 content.
Shinja27 Mar 20th 2010 3:32PM
The Ultimate raid would be to face Ghostcrawler and claim his assortment of epic mounts he owes everyone
Simon Mar 20th 2010 8:15AM
Well - Maw of Oblivion...
In case you don't know :
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Draenor Set
Azuremyst Isle - 1 to 10
Bloodmyrk Isle - 10 to 20
Eversong Forest - 1 to 10
Quel'thalas - 10 to 20
Hellfire Peninsula - 58 to 62
Zangarmarsh - 60 to 64
Terokkar Forest - 61 to 65
The Deadlands - 63 to 67
Nagrand - 64 to 68
Blade's Edge Mountains - 66 to 70
Netherstorm - 67 to 70
Shadowmoon Valley - 69 to 70
Northrend Set
Borean Tundra - 67 to 70
Howling Fjord - 67 to 70
Dragonblight - 69 to 72
Grizzly Hills - 70 to 73
Crystalsong Forest - 72 to 75
Zul'drak - 73 to 76
Sholazar Basin - 75 to 79
Storm Peaks - 76 to 80
Icecrown Glacier - 78 to 80
Maelstrom Set
Gilneas - 77 to 80
Grim Batol - 78 to 81
Kul Tiras - 79 to 82
Kezan - 81 to 86
Tel Abim - 83 to 85
Zandalar - 84 to 87
Plunder Isle - 86 to 88
The Broken Isles - 87 to 90
The Maelstrom - 89 to 90
Plane Set
Pandaria - 1 to 10
Hiji - 10 to 20
Wolfenhold - 1 to 10
Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20
The Green Lands - 88 to 91
The Dying Paradise - 91 to 94
The Emerald Nightmare - 94 to 97
The Eye of Ysera - 97 to 100
Deephome - 88 to 91
Skywall - 91 to 94
The Abyssal Maw - 94 to 97
The Firelands - 97 to 100
Legion Set
K'aresh - 96 to 99
Argus Meadowlands - 97 to 100
Mac'Aree - 99 to 100
Maw of Oblivion - 100+
Celles Mar 20th 2010 8:17AM
Uh... what?
olzer Mar 20th 2010 8:17AM
Do you honestly believe that flacking list?
Eamara Mar 20th 2010 8:32AM
Er yeah, that list has already been disproven by Cataclysm. It was accurate for Northrend, and it may have been accurate for the rest of it once upon a time, but things have clearly changed drastically since that list was first created. For example, Gilneas is the starting zone for the Worgen and not the 77-80 area, and we're only going to level 85, not 90.
That list may be a (very) rough guide, but I wouldn't follow it religiously. Or at all, tbh.
Tremelizzer Mar 20th 2010 8:37AM
Its author admitted he has made it himself. That was on allakhazam forums but can't (bother) to find the link.
loop_not_defined Mar 20th 2010 8:40AM
That list has never been accurate. It first appeared *AFTER* Burning Crusade was announced, showing prior knowledge to....Burning Crusade.
Northrend was listed as the third expac at the time, but that was pretty obvious - besides, the Northrend stuff shown on your list was "updated" after Wrath of the Lich King was announced. It was different (and incorrect) on the original "Burning Crusade" list.
The list is a fake, and always has been.
Mognet T Mar 20th 2010 9:15AM
Well Loop, as much as I want to argue with you, this list is definitely different than the one I have from 2007. Notably, it lacks the "Coldarra" zone for Wrath, in fact, it seems that all the lists on the internet now do not list the Coldarra zone...
Fancy that.
lawters Mar 20th 2010 9:46AM
Maybe because Coldarra is a part of Borean?
cygnus Mar 20th 2010 3:18PM
Just to point some:
Deepholme and the Abissal Maw were anounced for the next expansion... not the "plane set"
Then again the "maelstrom set" does not include leveling areas, when there are gonna be AT LEAST 4 new areas confirmed and anounced (worgens, goblins, gnomes, trolls).
And talking bout trolls... that list is one
Rankin Mar 20th 2010 10:15PM
Actually, the list showed up after WotLK was announced.
Feonor Mar 20th 2010 8:17AM
Hogger 25 man raid. That would be so awesome!
slythwolf Mar 20th 2010 11:29AM
40 man, dude. 40 man.