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3-29-2010 @ 5:18PM
My biggest problem with Jewelcrafting - from the point of view of a progression raider who is currently in a top 1000 guild (not much, I know, but we try) is that absolute lack of anything crafted past ilvl 200. The rings and neck pieces were really nice for a newly minted 80, but *every* other profession has ilvl 226s from Ulduar, ilvl 245s from TOC and ilvl 264s from ICC. Where's mine? I am currently levelling a druid up to be an offtank and I'm going to have most of a set of 232 tier gear and off pieces, and 245 crafted leather pieces - but no JC options to go along with them.
3-29-2010 @ 5:27PM
OK, that is a good one. I agree no upgrade path beyond ilevel 200. Epic gems are the only new thing past 3.0 right?
3-29-2010 @ 6:02PM
Alchemy says "hey!". Engineering wanted me to pop in and say "hello" while I was here, and Inscription was too busy sulking to want to talk to me. You're not alone. Regardless, all the 226+ stuff is BoE and accessible to anyone with the cash. I'm not sure why this really matters. It would be nice to get some new recipes through the expansion like the armor crafting professions, but with professions like alchemy.... who knows?*My* biggest problem with the Jewelcrafting tokens was that not only were there hundreds of recipes, but that it takes forever to get them all. Theoretically I could buy 40 titanium powder for ~1200 gold, or 4 damaged necklaces for about the same price for EACH epic gem recipe. Then there's 3 tokens each for the rare recipes, 6 each for the jewelry, 5 each for the metas..... it's overwhelming.The problem with needing to go to other people for help is that unless you're in a guild with multiple dedicated (and/or rich) Jewelcrafters at the beginning of the expansion, most people are just going to start off with the cuts they'll need themselves (Dragon's Eye cuts and whatever applies to their class), then the most popular cuts so they can actually make money. It's fine as an idea, but it doesn't work out in practice for most people.
3-29-2010 @ 6:07PM
To be fair, enchanting hasn't gotten anything new since Ulduar (and only two new enchants there, Blood Draining and Blade Ward).Sure, some enchants have been changed/updated/nerfed/what have you in that time, but enchanting's been the same old same old since 3.1
3-29-2010 @ 6:24PM
@BenMSI wholeheartedly agree; it would be nice to be able to craft some sort of higher tier necklace/rings, particularly given my lack of love from the RNG gods with regards to drops/rolls.Speaking of the RNG, I personally, would also like to see the prospecting standardised a little bit more. It makes me sad when I prospect multiple stacks of Titanium Ore, only to get a smattering of green-quality gems, a ton of blue-quality gems, and maybe - maybe! - an epic gem or titanium powder or two. Of course I have the same sad luck with Icy Prisms, so maybe it really is just me.Still, it would be nice, and make a lot of sense, if Coblat Ore always gave you green gems, with a chance at a blue, Saronite always blue with a chance at an epic, and Titanium one epic, with random blues/powder. I imagine this would also help to stabilise (*cough*lower*cough*) the price of gems on servers, which would make a lot of people happy, as well as aid those leveling jewelcrafting - you might not get exactly what you want, but you'll at least get something you could use to eke out a point or two.
3-30-2010 @ 4:33AM
@BenMS- This has been a long term gripe for me since the release of 3.1, why were there no 226/245 craftable rings/necklaces/trinkets... It definitely would have made sense for them to be there. Though I will say with the Ashen Verdict rings I could understand why they would have been missing from 3.3 and its gear level.@Alithoe- While I share your pain, and definitely think the 'gated' design was a bit too slow it was a DRASTIC improvement over BC era JCing. For those that have forgotten most of the patterns were random BoE types of items that i would often see going for 500-1500g on my server for the Rare cuts (damned Runed/Teardrop cuts were the bane of my existence) and this was really changed until the introduction of 2.4 and the ability to buy Epic cuts from a Shattered Sun Vendor.So if they can just find a good comprimise between the gating of wrath and pure rng of BC i'll be a happy camper.
3-30-2010 @ 4:49AM
"Every" other profession? Where are my ilevel226-ilevel245 items I can craft with alchemy? Am I missing something?Any profession drops for alchemy yet? No? Didn't think so... -.-
3-30-2010 @ 6:06AM
@ CrimsonEyedDeath Actually we did get a new spell mate - there was a new fishing enchant that dropped of the fishermen in DB. Not exactly game breaking i know - and ive chanted it precisly once (my own gear). Personally i would like to see more chant love as well. Ive got almost every recipe - but just dont get enough time to grind AQ40 and MC for the last few im missing (got all TBC and Wrath)Id also like to say that JC'ers made - and still make - more cash from their profession than any other profession i know - yes i know its been watered down hugely from the original vast profit that was made - mosty due to the fact nearly everyone made a JC to earn cash/cut own gems. I know 2 gold capped people, and they both made nearly all their wealth from cutting gems and posting them on the AH, but to be fair i have to say that the people who made the most - were the ones doing the dailys EVERY day, and buying raw gems and the various JC items off the AH as well as grinding ore and prospecting it.
3-30-2010 @ 12:16PM
JC, chanting, and alchy all have items that are still useful in current content whereas BS, engineering, LW and tailoring did not. They needed to have new recipes added in or else they would lose any incentive for players to grab them. Alchy is the only profession that hasn't had any new recipes added in a patch (I think), but the others have - JC had the epic gems and chanting had some top-level chants added in (during patches where the other professions got nothing iirc).
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