Blizzard introduces new official story forum

Still, I'm going to go ahead and go by the welcome message and declare it a lore forum. No longer will we have to go searching through pages and pages of flames, rants, and class balance whines to find the lore-based flames, rants, and Garrosh vs. Varian debate threads. Nethaera also revealed that the publishing division plans to look at the Forum discussions to get an idea of what people like and don't like about Warcraft's stories, so if you've been writing an epic rant about Med'an or Rhonin, you may finally have the outlet you've always wanted. You can find the forum here.
If you need extra ammunition before jumping into the discussion yourself, be sure to check out our lore guide, as well as past entries of our Know Your Lore column.
After the jump, you can check out the forum welcome message, as well as some additional words from Nethaera on Blizzard's Creative Development Team and lore resources.
NethaeraWelcome to the Warcraft Story Forum! This forum is here as a means for players to discuss the storylines of the Warcraft universe, as told in-game and through the novels, manga, comics, and short stories that Blizzard publishes.
Code of Conduct:
http://w ww.worldofwarcraft.co m/policy/forum-coc.ht ml
Also, please use the search function at the top of the page to find information on a topic before you post a question. Your fellow community members will appreciate it.
If you are new to MMORPGs, please take a look at our guide on how to start your adventures in World of Warcraft:
Getting Started:
http://w ww.worldofwarcraft.co m/info/basics/getting started.html
Please note that while the members of the Community team will be moderating these discussions as normal, members of the Creative Development team will also be monitoring discussions, and looking for constructive feedback.
Have fun posting on these forums, and good luck with your adventures in Azeroth!
Code of Conduct:
http://w
Also, please use the search function at the top of the page to find information on a topic before you post a question. Your fellow community members will appreciate it.
If you are new to MMORPGs, please take a look at our guide on how to start your adventures in World of Warcraft:
Getting Started:
http://w
Please note that while the members of the Community team will be moderating these discussions as normal, members of the Creative Development team will also be monitoring discussions, and looking for constructive feedback.
Have fun posting on these forums, and good luck with your adventures in Azeroth!
NethaeraWhat is Creative Development?
Creative Development (CDev) is a "hub" within Blizzard, facilitating the development of ancillary products and services that tie into Blizzard's game universes. While there are several different divisions of CDev, this Warcraft Story forum focuses on the efforts of the Publishing division.
What does Creative Development's Publishing division have to do with Warcraft's stories and lore?
The Publishing division within Creative Development is the driving force behind every published story you've seen outside of the game: short stories, novels, comics, and manga.
Who comprises the Publishing division of Creative Development?
Publishing is made of two groups:
-Story Development: this group focuses on story idea creation, story outlining, and story development for licensed fiction, as well as for internally-written stories
-Historian s: this group is the repository for all Blizzard lore, providing counsel for the game development teams and the CDev Story Development group
What is the Publishing division's usual process for developing a story?
- Idea Generation & Outline Creation: Working with Chris Metzen and the designers on the respective game's development team, the Story Development team generates an idea and an outline for a story. The writer on the project is typically invited to our offices at this point in the project, so that they can be in on the ground floor of the story's creation.
- Story Development & Lore Checking: Over the course of the project, the Story Development team talks constantly with the writer, as well as with Chris Metzen and the game developers, in order to help hone the story into a Blizzard-quality tale. At the same time, our Historian team combs through the iterations of the story in order ensure that the story adheres to the universe's established canon.
What does the Publishing division hope to accomplish with this Warcraft Story forum?
We'd like to give the community a chance to influence the development of our upcoming stories, so we're trying something new; this forum will serve as a direct line to our story developers. Please note that we're not looking for fully-formed stories - save those for the Global Writing Contest (which we operate and judge) - but rather we're looking for specific examples of what people like, don't like, and what they would like to see (story-wise) from us in the future.
Creative Development (CDev) is a "hub" within Blizzard, facilitating the development of ancillary products and services that tie into Blizzard's game universes. While there are several different divisions of CDev, this Warcraft Story forum focuses on the efforts of the Publishing division.
What does Creative Development's Publishing division have to do with Warcraft's stories and lore?
The Publishing division within Creative Development is the driving force behind every published story you've seen outside of the game: short stories, novels, comics, and manga.
Who comprises the Publishing division of Creative Development?
Publishing is made of two groups:
-Story Development: this group focuses on story idea creation, story outlining, and story development for licensed fiction, as well as for internally-written stories
-Historian
What is the Publishing division's usual process for developing a story?
- Idea Generation & Outline Creation: Working with Chris Metzen and the designers on the respective game's development team, the Story Development team generates an idea and an outline for a story. The writer on the project is typically invited to our offices at this point in the project, so that they can be in on the ground floor of the story's creation.
- Story Development & Lore Checking: Over the course of the project, the Story Development team talks constantly with the writer, as well as with Chris Metzen and the game developers, in order to help hone the story into a Blizzard-quality tale. At the same time, our Historian team combs through the iterations of the story in order ensure that the story adheres to the universe's established canon.
What does the Publishing division hope to accomplish with this Warcraft Story forum?
We'd like to give the community a chance to influence the development of our upcoming stories, so we're trying something new; this forum will serve as a direct line to our story developers. Please note that we're not looking for fully-formed stories - save those for the Global Writing Contest (which we operate and judge) - but rather we're looking for specific examples of what people like, don't like, and what they would like to see (story-wise) from us in the future.
NethaeraLooking for more Warcraft information, but don't know where to start? Whether you've played Warcraft I, II, or III, these books will showcase the people and events that have shaped the Warcraft universe over the last few (in-game) decades:
The above stories are but the tip of the iceberg.
- Rise of the Horde by Christie Golden - http://u
s.blizzard.com/store/ details.xml?id=110000 083
Set before the orcs invade Azeroth for the first time, this story explores what the orc race was like before its clans were forged into a single savage Horde under the influence of the demonic Burning Legion. Part of the novel focuses on the orc Orgrim Doomhammer and his childhood friend, Durotan (who would later become Thrall's father). Other parts of the story depict the aging shaman Ner'zhul; his ambitious apprentice, Gul'dan; the mighty Grommash Hellscream; the wise draenei leader, Velen; and several other significant characters.
- The Last Guardian by Jeff Grubb - http://u
s.blizzard.com/store/ details.xml?id=110000 055
This is a good introduction to older human history in Warcraft, with emphasis on the events of the First War (Warcraft I). Medivh, the Guardian of Tirisfal, decides to take on an apprentice: the young mage Khadgar. As time goes on, Khadgar learns that a half-orc named Garona is acting as a secret emissary to the nation of Stormwind. While he and Garona try to reach an understanding, Khadgar realizes that Medivh's behavior is growing increasingly erratic. Ultimately he and Sir Anduin Lothar, the childhood friend of both Medivh and King Llane Wrynn of Stormwind, reach a terrible realization: Medivh, an incredibly powerful wizard, is under the control of Sargeras, Destroyer of Worlds, creator of the demonic Burning Legion. This novel is also in print as part of the Warcraft Archive.
- Beyond the Dark Portal by Aaron Rosenberg and Christie Golden – Currently Out of Stock in Blizzard Store, can be found on Amazon.com here: http://w
ww.amazon.com/World-W arcraft-Beyond-Dark-P ortal/dp/1416550860/r ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid=1269 289009&sr=8-1
This is a good introduction to Alliance and Horde history during the events of Warcraft IIx. Instead of starting a new war, the shaman Ner'zhul has decided to open dimensional rifts from the orc homeworld of Draenor into fresh new worlds to conquer. Horrified at the possibility, Sir Lothar's former lieutenant, the human paladin Turalyon, leads an Alliance expedition into Draenor to stop Ner'zhul. With Turalyon are the mage Khadgar and the ranger Alleria Windrunner (the older sister of Sylvanas and Vereesa). Alleria and Turalyon began falling in love with one another in the Second War, but Alleria turned her back on Turalyon after the Horde invaded Quel'Thalas and killed many of her people. In the midst of battle on an alien world, can their relationship be mended? And can the Alliance expedition reach Ner'zhul in time to stop the Horde from bringing death and destruction into new worlds?
- Lord of the Clans by Christie Golden - http://u
s.blizzard.com/store/ details.xml?id=110000 056
This story depicts the life of Warchief Thrall, starting only a short while after Thrall was born. Raised among humans as a slave, Thrall became a master gladiator before deciding that he would escape his slavery. The story depicts Thrall's subsequent friendship with Grom Hellscream, as well as Thrall's journey to rejoin his clan and master the shamanic arts. When a disguised Warchief Orgrim Doomhammer provokes Thrall into a challenge to single combat, Thrall fights his first truly momentous battle: a fight whose consequences will change the course of history. This novel is also in print as part of the Warcraft Archive.
- Arthas: Rise of the Lich King by Christie Golden - http://u
s.blizzard.com/store/ details.xml?id=110000 0405
This story explores the life and character of Prince Arthas Menethil leading up to the events of the Third War (Warcraft III) and Warcraft IIIx. As the plague of undeath ravaged Lordaeron, fear and desperation drove the prince to more ruthless measures until he had utterly lost his way. The story also explores the romance he shared with Lady Jaina Proudmoore, in addition to the unrequited love that the high elf prince, Kael'thas Sunstrider, bore for Jaina.
The above stories are but the tip of the iceberg.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Tidelord Mar 30th 2010 11:05AM
(inb4 "KNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!" threads on said story forum.)
Grovinofdarkhour Mar 30th 2010 11:16AM
Notice that Nethaera's third post directs people to five books. Somehow, NOT ONE of the books listed were written by you-know-who.
Coincidence?
Jamie Mar 30th 2010 12:20PM
KNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!
You may be inb4 story threads on said forum but you'll never take away our right to KNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK! on WoW.com!!!111
Muse Mar 30th 2010 1:05PM
Believe it or not: EU got a forum too! http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=14364669&sid=1 Linky for your pleasure.
(Now if we could just get a bug report forum instead of ending up in suggestions or technical support, all would be dandy.)
Namy Mar 30th 2010 3:12PM
Thanks for the link Muse :))
Grovinofdarkhour Mar 30th 2010 11:09AM
Garrosh vs. Varian debate threads? Where where where??
/end sarcasm
Fatamorgana Mar 30th 2010 11:09AM
Waiting on the next installment, "The Life and Times of Hogger Riverpaw: Leader, Father, and Biter of Fleas."
Task Mar 30th 2010 1:24PM
I'm looking forward to Hogger's new autobiography and his appearance on James Lipton's Inside the Actor's Studio and the Colbert Report.
Randy Mar 30th 2010 11:12AM
Wonder if anyone will throw up the flame bait post on those forums of:
"What was the biggest lore !@#$ up in WoW.....anything written by Knaak (especially anything involving Rhonin/Krasus) or the Draenei BC fiasco leading to a mea culpa from Metzen himself? Discuss"
Wowcoholic Mar 30th 2010 11:20AM
A fourm for Lore feedback....
What this says to me: We're out of story ideas for post-cataclysm content, but won't outwardly admit it. Offer suggestions, your little gaming lives depend on it!
MusedMoose Mar 30th 2010 11:46AM
Speaking as a writer, I can assure you that running out of ideas is never a problem. Blizzard's writers all put together will *never* run out of ideas.
Do not pass Go, do not collect 200 gold, go directly to the Knaak Reading Room. :P
MusedMoose Mar 30th 2010 11:51AM
Also, from the "WTB Edit button" department:
It would be illegal for Blizzard to use any story suggestions from their fans. This is why professional authors are legally bound *not* to read fanfic of their work - someone who wrote a story that the author read could sue if any of the author's later work could be proven in court as similar enough to the fanfic to be considered plagiarism. This has happened to at least one author - Mercedes Lackey, I believe, but don't quote me on that.
So Blizzard's not going to be looking for new story ideas from a forum, because if they used something someone wrote, they would have to purchase the story from them or something similar, and that would involve all kinds of legal issues that I'm sure they'd rather not deal with.
I don't know if your post was serious or intended as a troll, but either way you're wrong. Twice.
Hob Mar 30th 2010 12:05PM
@MusedMoose
I can't find anything in the official forum guidelines, but I strongly suspect that if you post something in the forums, you are adhering to the Terms of Use Agreement for your account - anything you create in-game (such as a character, character name, etc.) belongs to Blizzard entertainment. In such a case, if you post your ideas on Blizzard's site, which requires you to login to your account to post such an idea, you've probably donated that idea.
If you post ideas about WoW on your own blog or website, you probably have a case for asserting fanfic propriety.
Maybe the Lawbringer could address this in an upcoming article?
MusedMoose Mar 30th 2010 12:41PM
@Hob -
Y'know, that's an excellent point, and one I'm sure Blizzard took care of, because it makes sense that they'd be aware of all this entails. I'll have to ask about that next time I see a Lawbringer column. Thank you.
Amy Schley Mar 30th 2010 1:41PM
Never fear! Lawbringer is here!
I have about two months of columns planned for when I finally get to copyright law, and I will be going into this particular problem. As a short taste version, you own a copyright on anything you type online, and if Blizzard were to copy that, they would be infringing. However, if they never read your work and independently came up with the exact same idea, that wouldn't infringe. To prove that their work was not a copy, they often have to prove they didn't access your work. As a result, if Blizzard starts using ideas from the forum, they either a) bought a license to what was published, b) didn't let their lore guys even look at the forum, or c) the idea was so obvious and/or general they feel confident that no judge is going to think it was copying of a protected copyrighted work.
Nicholas Tam Mar 30th 2010 1:57PM
@MusedMoose - I'm fairly certain you're wrong about the legal issues surrounding fanfic. Strictly speaking, fanfic authors have no rights to their derivative works. Fanfic is usually tolerated by the original work's copyright holder because it presents no harm, but there's a reason you only see it circulated online; it can't be commercially distributed.
If you look at the infamous Harry Potter Lexicon case, you'll see that this doesn't only apply to fan creations that are told in a fictive mode, but also to speculative materials like timelines and encyclopedias that conflict with what the rights holder also wishes to produce. (This was a case where Steve Vander Ark unwisely attempted to publish the most prominent online fan compendium of Potter material in printed form, and his publisher, RDR Books, was sued for doing so. The fact that the fan timeline on the site was likely the source for the timelines on the official Warner Bros. DVDs had no bearing on the law.)
In fact, one of the persistent worries of fanfic communities (look up the one that has branded itself the "Organization for Transformative Works") is that there ISN'T any legal protection for fanfic (and for good reasons, I might add). If an author steals your fanfic you can go ahead and sue, but you aren't going to win. Otherwise there would be an unreasonable expectation on the part of the author to prove the kind of thing you suggest - a total ignorance of the fanfic and speculation going on. Thankfully, that isn't the case.
I'm not sure where you got your Mercedes Lackey example, but Lackey began as a fanfic writer herself, and has been one of the few authors to grant permission for its noncommercial distribution via Creative Commons.
Hollow Leviathan Mar 30th 2010 2:12PM
I find it amusing that further fiction that closely drew from fan ideas was found to be legally actionable, but further fiction that closely drew from fan ideas TO CONTRADICT THEM is wholly legal, EG later Harry Potter books which went out of their way to undermine as many fanfics as possible.
Nicholas Tam Mar 30th 2010 6:07PM
Aww, someone's still bitter about Harry and Hermione not ending up together! Cute.
Hollow Leviathan Mar 30th 2010 8:28PM
I have no attachment to Potter, I just remember hearing about the hilariously belligerent interaction the author had with the fans about certain popular fanfics.
MusedMoose Mar 31st 2010 10:29AM
@ Nicholas Tam -
It's possible that I'm misremembering what I read, or that the person who wrote it was mistaken. Thanks for the info either way, though. And I'm certain that a lot of writers get their start writing fanfic; I've written a bit myself. ^_^