PvZ, Hardcore: Frost vs. fire 101

We're going back to the basics this week, fellow Lawn Elitists, and we're going to let the noobs in on some of our secrets. So I'm jumping on the 101 bandwagon here at PvZ insider, and we'll rehash the old frost vs. fire debate. Don't skip this column, however, because a refresher course may be just what you need to beat your Survival Endless score.
Frost 101
The prevailing theory with the frost build is that you slow the zombie down to give you more time to DPS and shore up your defenses. This is an excellent strategy, as long as you know your plants:
- Snowpea: The Snowpea costs 175 sun and fires one frozen pea at the target, slowing down both his movement and his attack. Snowpeas do not stack, so don't put more than one in a row.
- Wintermelon: This is an upgrade that must be purchased from Crazy Dave. In game, you upgrade Melonpults with these and they cost 200 sun. Like Melonpults, they damage groups of zombies, but they also slow these groups like Snowpeas.
- Kernelpult: Technically, when the Kernelpult turns zombies into temporary butterheads, this is a root and not frost-related. But since they cost 100 sun, they are a cheap way to slow the zombies' movement down.
Fire 101With the Torchwood plant, your peas (and peas only) become fireballs that do twice as much damage and hit zombies that are close to the target. If you set up your plants correctly, the zombies will rarely make it past the first column, except in the huge waves. Here are the plants that will make fireballs when placed to the left of Torchwoods:
- Peashooter: Cheap at 100 sun with a pretty quick refresh, this is the first thing to plant until you are able to replace it with something better later.
- Splitpea: Only use this if there are Diggers in your level and you are not using Magnetshrooms and/or Cattails.
- Repeater: At 200, these are expensive, but twice the fireballs and can be upgraded.
- Gatling Pea: A great upgrade for Repeaters that shoot four peas.
- Threepeater: This is the best plant for fire spec as it shoots a pea down each row. 325 sun is expensive, but well worth it for the overlapping fireball action.
Frostfire 101
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Don't use Snowpeas.
When Snowpeas pass through a Torchwood, they turn into regular peas. They don't keep any of their slowing abilities, nor do they turn into fireballs. It is best to use the Wintermelon upgrade on Melonpults, even with the added expense of using upgrades in Survival Endless. You'll get all the slowing ability of Snowpeas, but as an AoE attack, and still be able to firebomb the zombies. The only issue that may arise for noobs trying the frostfire spec is not having enough sun. So here's a pro tip: always plant two columns of sunflowers.
Next week, I will give you an in-depth analysis of the Bobsled Bonanza minigame, complete with a foolproof strategy for winning consistently. Until then, remember, we don't want zombies on our lawn.
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 3)
Azizrael Apr 1st 2010 7:58PM
Fire build until the roof, then respec frost. Fire is ridiculously good on a flat lawn.
saregos Apr 1st 2010 7:59PM
Gloom-shrooms and garlic. 4 slots (daytime), but two rows of them can wipe out pretty much anything.
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for using Garlic to divert zombies, then starfruit and gloom-shrooms to hit them from the side. I typically don't even take a peashooter-type plant unless I'm in the mood for a deep-fire build.
In my experience, and I may be wrong, but the Starfruit is the single most efficient early-game plant available... Two of them can guard 3 or more rows, making them considerably more cost-effective than the peashooter.
Ysonia Apr 1st 2010 8:43PM
Technically, you can use frozen peashooters in the same row as a torchwood. You just have to put them to the right, so they peas don't pass through the flames and "defrost." Other than that, good info! :)
icepyro Apr 1st 2010 9:42PM
Just when I think this site can not contain more win, I am proven wrong once again.
I only recently got into this game, so for now I've been using the imitator on sunflowers to get enough burst sun to sustain my build. gatling + fire is just awesome. I only barely made it through Bobsled Bonanza recently, so I would love to read tips on how to beat it enough to put on farm. Otherwise, pogo party is the only thing left to beat. Well that and adventure on hard. I've been chilling and doing dailies that are easy and fun ways to gear up. I can make 3-4k on one normal day survival easily. You just can't beat 4 columns of marigolds and a gold plant. I usually go afk for the last 2 rounds and do other stuff like check mail in World of Warcraft.
I think I will go home and try frost as I feel it hasn't given it a fair shake. I do like frostfire where I have snowpea just behind the magnets and firewood right behind those. Hmm...
kunukia Apr 1st 2010 9:54PM
1. Of course they will!
2. Thank you for the cheap psychological diagnosis! It would have sufficed to make your point about those who come on later in the day having a good belly laugh to the whole days worth of shenanigans (and it is a good point). But having you judge folks like this, awesome!
kunukia Apr 1st 2010 9:55PM
Damn, of course I forget to hit reply. :(
Cleverly disguised as normal Apr 1st 2010 10:21PM
Man I love that game, great post, I know it's for April fools but I did actually want some ideas as to what is the best PvZ setup. Just want to point out though the Threepeater shoots a pea down three rows, one in front of it and two on each sides or if you plant it at the edge two in front, one on its side. It doesn't shoot "a pea down each row," I get what you meant but it's misleading putting it that way.
Why did I just corrected a April fools post? Because I'm CRAZY!!!!!!
For the actual quote see http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9020175
Cattails are OP.
Cleverly disguised as normal Apr 1st 2010 10:39PM
should be correct* (irony)
Wants to buy comment delete/edit feature.
And if you couldn't guess, my comment is meant to a parody of those correction comments.
boworr Apr 2nd 2010 3:38AM
Brainz!!!
Kabuki Joe Apr 2nd 2010 8:12AM
This must be what its like when that level 17 finally makes their way into the major city and sees Trade chat for the first time. Its a fun game, but you just went Zombiest Jerks on me. Theorycrafting skill, why have you forsaken me?!?!?