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4-03-2010 @ 8:15AM
As someone who is applying for jobs in real life right now I see a very big connection between the two. I also see a big difference: One is to get me money in real life so I can stay alive, the other for a freaking video game.Degrading and humiliating are two words that are good to use to describe the guild application process. Let's see how "hardcore" guilds deal in cata, where if trends continue content will become even more puggable.
4-03-2010 @ 8:17AM
Oh, and while i'm at it, don't bother with the "you've never been in a raiding guild you don't know what it's like!!" or "you're too bad to get into a raiding guild!!". Actually, don't bother with the (wrong) assumptions at all.
4-03-2010 @ 9:06AM
This, so bad. The absolute worst are the ones requiring a Ventrilo interview. Seriously? A vent interview? Are you going to start paying me and give me an office, too? Just fuck off already. There is absolutely no need for a game to mimic real life in such a way. I thought games were meant to be a source of escape but now I have to fucking get my portfolio ready and spend 15 minutes talking to some 16 year old on a mic as he vets me?As far as I'm concerned all it should take is a simple application which shows that 1) you can spell 2) you're not retarded 3) you're not an asshole and 4) you can listen and THEN 5) you're properly geared/gemmed/enchanted for raiding. Who cares what the fuck keybinds or addons you use? You use whatever you're comfortable with and as long as it WORKS for you and you can carry your own weight and it doesn't affect the raid. I guess being a guild leader in WoW gives people that sense of authority and power they desperately crave IRL.
4-03-2010 @ 9:46AM
I agree. I already have a job, I'm not going to go through all this just to play a game that I pay to play. If all these 'hardcore' raiding gulds would just drop the elitism, there would be a greater sense of community within the game. Instead, what we have is a bunch of snobs who wouldn't sully their hands with the likes of the rest of us. What's next on their agenda? Urine samples?
4-03-2010 @ 1:16PM
The point you guys are missing is that a raid only has 25 slots. For most raiding guilds there is a long line of people who WANT to raid with them. The amount of effort shown on the application directly shows the amount of effort the player is willing to put into raiding with you. Guilds are looking for like-minded individuals. Since it's impossible to trial every raider (especially off server transfers), an app is the only way to tell if a player puts as much into the game as your guild needs from them. If an applicant looks at a question and says 'I don't need to tell them that, so I won't' they sure as hell will do the same thing when you ask them to handle something in-raid that they think is not important. The second thing that the app does is weed out the people like you. The current state of hardmodes for most guilds could mean canceling a raid with one person deciding to take a night off. If an applicant can't even take the application seriously, how seriously do you expect them to take your raiding schedule?
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