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4-06-2010 @ 7:34AM
I too am optimistic, except for one small detail:Cleave is going to die as an on-next-swing ability. This will make me cry.There is nothing, absolutely nothing like a glyphed, talented Cleave on a tanking warrior. You can charge into a pack of mobs, pop Shield Block and spam TClap/Revenge/Shockwave, and at the same time fire off a 3-target Cleave every two thirds of a second (parry haste, you too shall be missed!) that crits for almost 2000 damage. I can routinely achieve 7500dps tanking the skeleton groups before Marrowgar on 10man mode with my Wrist Chopper, which is more than most dps in my semi-casual group can manage to pump out, and more than my paladin offtank as well. And I haven't even specced deep wounds.Seriously, with the recent TClap and Revenge buffs, and the Cleave glyph, warrior AoE tanking is in a good enough place. Cleave is roughly a third of my AoE dps, Revenge is another third, and the remaining third is mostly a combination of TClap, Shockwave and Damage Shield, with whatever single-target abilities I manage to hit in between tacked on as an afterthought.So with Cleave going the way of all on-next-hit abilities, I stand to lose a whopping third of my AoE threat. This worries me greatly. I can only hope the cataclysm class preview later this week will shed some light on general threat and damage output of prot warriors.
4-06-2010 @ 2:08PM
We'll have to see what they have planned for prot warriors to increase threat generation. Right now, having Cleave/Heroic Strike as a next melee, and therefore off the GCD, is the only thing that allows us to generate decent threat. It won't have much effect for fury, because fury isn't GCD-bound anyway, and it may become an attack worth using for arms, probably replacing Slam (hopefully!). However, prot warriors are currently balanced around having almost unlimited rage on bosses and being able to spam heroic strike or cleave as an additional attack off the global cooldown. For good threat, *every* GCD on a prot warrior must be used.
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