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4-05-2010 @ 3:07PM
In before edits maybe, but I don't know if you're clear on how much rage a Heroic Strike will consume in Cataclysm. From GC's first post:"For example, imagine Heroic Strike costs between 10 and 30 Rage. You must have at least 10 Rage to use the attack, but it will consume all available Rage up to a maximum of 30."So if you hit it while you have low rage, you'll likely rage-starve yourself for a moment at least. If you have more than 30 rage, it will consume 30 rage and do more damage accordingly. I believe this is roughly the same idea behind the Execute for Warriors.
4-05-2010 @ 3:17PM
If you look at the article early detailing the changes (its up on WoW.com this morning and on MMO), its in the fourth point, discussing "on next melee" attacks. I think GC just caused a bit of confusion with "essentially a third of your full bar" since its not essentially a third but always 30 rage (which is 30% no 33%).This is all up in the air still, but from what I've read from the Blues today, Heroic Strike (and Maul, presumably) will cost a minimum of 10 rage and a maximum of 30 rage.
4-05-2010 @ 3:25PM
Taking both of GC's comments together, I understand it using these examples:If you have 8 rage, you can't use Heroic StrikeIf you have 11 rage, you will use up all 11 rage when firing HSIf you have 28 rage, you will use up all 28 rage when firing HS and presumably do more dmg than the 11 rage example.If you have 31 rage, you will use 30 rage when firing HSIf you have 80 rage, you will use 30 rage when firing HSThus, using HS with less than 30 rage will leave you rage-less for a moment and thus probably not something you'd want to use. However, if you have a lot of rage, you can bleed off 30 at a time using HS to increase your DPS.
4-05-2010 @ 3:44PM
-Just to clarify, sources, and fix the last paragraph of this article-This is a great example of just how rage is going to work, and how the normalization of it will (likely) function across the entire system. If you have 10 rage, a heroic strike is going to cost you all of it as HS will always consume at least 10 rage. If you have 100 rage, a heroic strike is going to cost you at most 30 rage but will do more damage than a 10-rage HS. If you're at maximum rage and fire a HS, you'll have 70 rage left, assuming no other income or expense of rage in that time.Based on: http://www.wow.com/2010/04/05/rage-normalization-in-cataclysm/"4) All "on next swing" attacks in Cataclysm are being removed. Heroic Strike and Maul will be instant swings that cost a variable amount of Rage. For example, imagine Heroic Strike costs between 10 and 30 Rage. You must have at least 10 Rage to use the attack, but it will consume all available Rage up to a maximum of 30. Any Rage consumed above the minimum will cause the ability to hit harder."andhttp://www.wow.com/2010/04/05/heroic-strike-changes-in-cataclysm/ (this article)"You can't hit it (Heroic Strike) unless you have 10 rage and it will only ever take a max of 30" rage.
4-05-2010 @ 3:45PM
ya, pretty sure Jtrain has it correct, though I do like Adam's version better.
4-05-2010 @ 4:11PM
We really can't confirm anything until we get a...um, clarifcation to the earier clarifaction. /sighHow jtrain's previous comment laid it out makes the most sense game wise and is easier to play with. But it also relies more on the first statement that may be wrong since GC came out with a "clarification" to correct it.The main point in GC's clarification is "it costs a third of your rage bar when you hit the button". If it isn't the main point it is at least what is causing most of the confusion. Holisky used this statement to form his example and believes it to be the correct one because it is the "clarification" of the earlier statement. Meaning this is how it really behaves. But this could also be incorrect because he could easily mean "it costs a third of your rage bar when you hit the button (with a full rage bar)".We'll just have to wait and see I guess. I personally believe jtrain's example to be correct and Holisky's wrong but that is still only speculation.
4-05-2010 @ 4:33PM
"Right, however Ghostcrawler negates that original post by saying in particular that this current post, copied verbatim, is the clarification to what was initially said. I don't think it's fair to take a synthesis of the two, or to use the original at all -- this is what is correct."Well, you've swayed me then. Though it still seems more complicated than how they usually design abilities costs. Either way if you're below 30 rage you probably don't want to use Heroic Strike anymore so it doesn't really matter how it works anyway. (Since both statements said that it will use a max of 30 rage)And for those not clear on where he got 33% (because I'm a ditz and didn't figure it out to just now too) One third equals 33.33% not 30%. (They round down to the nearest whole number too I guess to get 33%)"It's their issue for not communicating correctly, not mine. I'm trying to make sure the most accurate and correct information is out there."And thanks for sticking with us and trying to help get the correct info out.
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