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4-08-2010 @ 9:11AM
I saw this a couple of days a go and found it incredibly interesting. The speaker brings up a side of gaming that I'd never even considered of before and applies a large amount of her theories to WoW in general. Anyone with 20 mins to spare should give this a watch! Now time to go change the world one Kobold at a time....
4-08-2010 @ 9:42AM
First off...TED FTW! One of the best sites on the internet IMHO. Second. I agree this was an excellent story. I hope that the world listens and encourage gamers to use this drive and expertise for problems in RL. This isn't going away, it will only be more pronounced in the future. Maybe someone will give us a reason to get out of our chairs and apply these skills.
4-08-2010 @ 10:19AM
She plays wow, and knows what TED is. I think I feel a rather juvenile crush coming on. ;)
4-08-2010 @ 11:43AM
I've thought about this many times before, about why I try so hard on my games, always playing on hard, always seeking out what the reviewers say are the toughest challenges (Ninja Gaiden, Demon's Souls), but when it comes to RL problems, if it looks impossible, I don't try.Unfortunately, I came up with a reason that kind of says this theory has a flaw. In video games, we are GUARANTEED that if we finally do good enough, no matter how hard it is, we can win. We can come out on top. If a building is on fire in RL, there is no guarantee that you going in to save someone will not just result in both of you being killed. It's very VERY possible to have a no win situation in RL, whereas in gaming, you can win. You know this.
4-08-2010 @ 11:47AM
Wanted to point out something from the main article, but I'm afraid that no matter how non-rudely I say my opinion on this, it will get voted down, so that's why I have it in a second separate comment."Blissful productivity is the idea that we are happier working hard because we feel optimized as human beings. We're accomplishing something. That always feels good, right?"This is the closest I've seen to someone describing why I fight so hard for games to retain high lvls of difficulty. I'm not talking about the whole game, or even a large chunk. Just an end game raid would be nice, something along the lines of 1 or 2% of the content. The blissful productivity thing does not apply when rehashing content we already beat on normal. Everything about Sunwell felt amazing, and a lot of people would disagree with that. That's fine, I'm not going to tell those people that they're bad at the game or not hardcore, I would simply suggest that they do not DO Sunwell if that is not their cup of tea.I do not understand why the people that don't want a hard, challenging, normal mode end game dungeon get so angry when we ask for it. It won't affect your playing at all, and it gives the people that enjoy it a tiny little playground to beat our heads against for months between xp's.Once again, I feel that this will be voted down, so if you feel like I do, pls vote it up :)
4-08-2010 @ 1:56PM
@VandersveldtI think part of what makes people so angry about content they can't do is that it generally gives better rewards - better level gear, mounts or cool titles. The better level gear then makes it easier for the minority to do that content, and gives them a headstart on future content. Its probably easier doing ICC in full ToC25 heroic gear than in standard gear etc.Another part of what annoys people is the elitist attitude of the top 1-2% of people, who frequently look down in scorn on the 'lower levels' of their classes, and instead of keeping their opinions to themselves, try to be 'helpful' in extremely insulting ways. I'm not saying that all top players are like this, I'm sure some of them are lovely, but there are lots of nob-ends about. I've been denied gear in PuGs as I 'didn't deserve it' or 'theres no point giving good gear to bad players', been told that my gems 'were weird' with no other explanation, or that my enchants 'were wrong'. I don't mind someone saying, 'hey mate, don't you think you should stack agility?', I do mind the 'l2play, now bugger off'.
4-08-2010 @ 3:43PM
I understand the vocal majority of the people that would like harder content act this way, however I hate that they've spoiled it for the rest of us.
4-08-2010 @ 4:01PM
There's no harm in saying that you like a challenge, just that the intensive farming of these kind of threads on the EU forums is leading to a crackdown at the moment, and it's really depressing as a relatively new player (started playing six months ago, doesn't feel like that, and don't have an 80 as I keep finding new things I haven't done on my main and want to try them out from scratch, as it were) to be written off as a retard because I find WoW perfectly balanced and playable, and find that enormous, enormous fun. Repeated wipes of the main character on Baldur's Gate (lose that toon, lose the game and have to reload...and a single WOLF can kill you at level 1) made the game far harder than WoW, for example, and eventually I gave up about three-quarters of the way through when I hit a wall in terms of what I could do at the level I was playing at) but the sense of satisfaction of just reaching Northrend recently keeps me playing, and the insane variety of things to do is more important to me than "srs bzness". Yet according to some people...that makes me automatically a moron and a retard and a terribad. I can escape in-game (except into a low-level battleground - now those are excruciating places for idiots to vent their spleen at players whose only crime is to be a newly dinged level 10 in their first ever BG) but since I enjoy contributing on forums and always participate in games' communities, it's something I've only encountered with WoW (and I've been active on Baldur's Gate and Civilization forums in the past with no hassle apart from in the political off-topic threads).I personally feel that if the game offers no challenge and is not fun, then the best thing is to do what I've done with Civ and BG - leave both the game and the community behind you and find something you DO like. I know you're not at that stage, but I'm curious as to why people who have that opinion hang around WoW forums and flame anyone and everyone who thinks differently. I personally wouldn't find that fun or enjoyable.
4-08-2010 @ 5:19PM
http://www.ted.com/talks/jesse_schell_when_games_invade_real_life.htmlAnother cool thing with games. If this ever happens we'll probably have wow minigames in real life. +10 points for saying lok'tar ogar as a greeting!
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