Insider Trader: Inscription without grinding glyphs

Inscription is a great profession for making money. Once the addons for making and selling glyphs efficiently became popular, many people selling glyphs became gold-capped. Selling glyphs these days is not all it's cracked up to be, however. There's now tons of competition, and on a lot of servers, glyphs sell perpetually for the cost of the mats to make them. Assuming you're not interested in going down that road, what can you do with this skill to make money?
First, let's look at our mats.
Everything that a scribe can make is going to be based on herbs. Scribes can mill herbs into pigments, which they can then craft into inks. Before inscription, old world herbs were cheap. Since inscription has a bunch of things that require ink from old world herbs, the prices have gone up considerably. Luckily, Blizzard saw fit to provide us with an ink trader, who resides in Dalaran. Jessica Sellers will sell you one of any of the old world common inks for a single Ink of the Sea, which you get from milling and crafting Northrend herbs. You can also, if this suits you, turn 10 Inks of the Sea into a Snowfall Ink, the rare Northrend ink.
An important note before we go on: without a single point in inscription, you can buy Ink of the Sea at a good price, exchange it for a few of the more profitable inks from Ms. Sellers, and resell those for a profit to people who are trying to buy mats for stuff they want to have crafted. Pay close attention to the actual value of snowfalls, though. No matter what your price addon tells you, they're worth less than that. Every scribe who makes glyphs is constantly looking for ways to liquidate them in massive quantities. They're basically a byproduct of Ink of the Sea, and the second they go up to some reasonably profitable price, someone will crash the market with supply.
Assuming you do indeed have (or want) a scribe, you'll want to set aside a little time to mill herbs. Don't forget that you can automate some of the task, even though you're limited to a single milling per hardware event. When you're making ink, the general rule is that Adder's Tongue, Icethorn and Lichbloom yield six common inks and one rare ink. In practice, Adder's Tongue is the cheapest because it's the easiest to farm and is in less demand by alchemists, who require lots of Icethorn and Lichbloom for raiding flasks. All other millable Northrend herbs provide an average of five common inks and half a rare ink. Notably, the only other herbs that will likely be cheap are Tiger Lily and sometimes Goldclover. Everything else is worth too much to others. Even if you find a good deal on the AH one day, it's better to wait until a Saturday night and relist a valuable herb you bought on the cheap it rather than mill it.
Over 90% of my tradeskill window is filled with glyphs!
How can I make money without them? You have a couple of things you can make that are either low profit but extremely high demand, or high profit and low demand.
- Vellums are items that enchanters buy a lot in order to store enchants for sale on the auction house. They come in the armor and weapon flavors and have three levels. Armor vellums are used for many more times the number of enchants as weapon vellums, and as such have a much higher demand. Conversely, they take a third of the mats to produce. Despite this, their price is typically about the same as weapon vellum, so focus on these. Also to note: if you have a good supply of low level herbs at less than it costs you to get low-level inks from Ms. Sellers, it can sometimes be worth selling the level one and two vellums.
- Runescrolls of Fortitude are purchased by 10-man raiders extensively. They're almost as good as a priest, and they don't backtalk. Sell these in lots of five mostly, but always list a few stacks of lower and higher quantity to get the convenience buyers. These sell quickly. So quickly that sometimes it takes me five minutes to buy all the parchment I'll need to make them. Bear in mind that these are a very popular way for glyph sellers to liquidate their snowfalls, so be prepared to have to compete viciously on price.
- Darkmoon cards are a whole post to themselves and are a bit of a sketchy market. I'm including them for thoroughness. Every time you make one of these, you have a one in four chance of it being a nobles card, which will be part of your Noble's Deck. These allow people to get one of the best trinkets in the game outside of Icecrown Citadel, and as such is in constant demand. The problem is that you really want to get the average return per card creation, but you can't expect the random number generator's influence to approach zero. The process of making enough cards to negate the RNG's effect on your yields would flood the card market and empty the Eternal Life market. Walk into this eyes open. If you spend 20,000g on making cards, you might get cards worth 60,000g, 21,000g or 7,000g. The odds are in your favor, though.
- Faces of Doom and Iron-bound Tome are iLvl 200 epic caster off-hands usable at level 77. These don't sell fast, but they sell, and you can make them with a medium investment in materials.
Filed under: Economy, Insider Trader (Professions)






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Midas Apr 13th 2010 4:41AM
On my server, Deadnettle is reliably the cheapest herb on the AH, and mills mostly ink of the sea, perfect for glyphs.
Also, don't forget to farm for Rituals of the New Moon. Yes, it's a Twilight reference, but it's not common at all, and it turns you into a wolf, so many RPers and costume nuts will snap it up for silly prices.
Hal Apr 13th 2010 12:46PM
This used to be the case on my server as well (Deadnettle being cheapest), but I think I may have shot myself in the foot in that regard.
I'd wanted to start crafting Darkmoon Cards, and I saw stacks of Deadnettle selling for barely more than the vendor price, so I snapped up everything I could grab. I repeated this every day for nearly a week before someone must have noticed, because the price rose from 2.50g/stack to 3g, then 4g, and now it generally sits at 7-9g, nearly the same as Goldclover.
I got most of a Nobles deck out of it, but I'm a bit bummed that there really isn't a market for cheap herbs on my server anymore. Alas.
KingGanon Jun 1st 2010 12:41AM
Thank you for this. I just got my inscription to 436 and didn't know those existed.
Dusto Apr 13th 2010 6:54AM
From what I have experienced (on multiple high population servers) Icethorn seems to be the same price or even a tad lower than most other Northrend herbs. Keep an eye out for this and snatch it up if you can. Adder's Tongue, Icethorn, and Lichbloom all have a higher chance of milling Icy Pigment as well as a higher amount of Azure Pigment.
From my experience if you're looking so get Snowfalls go with Icethorn. It seems to mill into multiple Icy Pigment slightly more frequently. After Milling 50 stacks of herbs every few days since Wrath came out I can say that the Icethorn percentage is slightly higher.
When selling glyphs you have to be relentless on cancelling and undercutting your competition. It's a tough market, but glyphs are always in demand. You'll make a profit if you put the time and effort needed in for it.
Rituals of the New Moon does indeed sell quite well. Farm for it. I seem to sell one every few days for a decent amount of gold.
Making Darkmoon cards is like gambling. If you already have a lot of gold to test your luck then go for it, but check the prices on Nobles cards before you do anything. Sometimes the market is quite lower than you would think. On my server currently as an example the cards are only going for 200-250g a piece. No profit there even if you do get the cards.
simon.homer Apr 13th 2010 7:21AM
"When selling glyphs you have to be relentless on cancelling and undercutting your competition"
In my experience, not so.
Firstly you need a good system and a good set up of addons.
I have about an hours worth of boring clicking every 48 hours and this nets me 3-5k on a low pop server.
Typically I am posting between 1500-2000 glyphs every 48 hours which depending on the competition is 50-60% of all the glyphs on my AH.
When I first started my glyph business back in October 09' I went crazy the first week, cancelling, undercutting and reposting my glyphs every hour. It totally did my head in.
The bottom line is there is always a bunch of saddos who just sit there constantly camping the AH and will undercut you by 1 copper the minute you post. Now I dont worry about them, I craft (the boring bit), I post (automated), and I come back 48 hours later and collect my money.
I dont worry about what to craft, how many to craft or what price to post them at. There is no decision making process at all - the addons if set up correctly do all the work for you.
Granted I am on a low-pop server but there is always someone who comes along and thinks they can take over the market - if they dont have a system that a monkey could run once its set up, it seems too much like hard work and they soon get bored having made a bit of gold then they stop posting.
Morale? Do some research about the Glyph market, find the right addons, get a system going and be disciplined about finding an hour to do your crafting.
Darkmoon cards and other things are a waste of time imo. There is more money than ever to be made from Glyphs. The weekend after the patch netted me 7.5k over two days.
AltairDusk Apr 13th 2010 7:51AM
Simon would you mind sharing the addons you use? I've been trying out different mods but haven't found a setup that works well for me yet.
simon.homer Apr 13th 2010 8:42AM
Auctioneer Addon Suite (now has a built in Glyph Module) - tells me what to craft and how much to sell it for.
ArkInventory - to manage my bags and put things in order so its easier on the eye :)
Altoholic - keeps track of my glyph stocks accross my selling toons - ties in with all other addons.
Postal/Mail Opener - for AFK mass mail collection and other mail related tasks
Lil Sparkys Clone of Skillet - Ties in nicely with the Glypher function to get a list of what needs crafting and speeds up the actual crafting process.
I have 2 glyph selling toons as one cannot manage all the glyphs.
Toon A sells glyphs for the first 5 classes (alphabetically) and toon B sells the last 5 classes glyphs alphabetically. These are pure AH toons. I have one scribe who makes all the glyphs.
You need to also understand what price to buy your herbs at. I ONLY buy Northrend herbs and only at the correct price. I mill and make Ink of the Sea which I use to trade in for the other types of ink I need.
I have some saved searches within Auctioneer that allow me see what I should be buying the 3 different types of Northrend herbs at and I just sit there clicking like a demon buying about 2-3k worth of herbs at a time. (providing they are within my budgets) I usually do this 1-2 times per month.
I will admit this took me a good few weeks to research and set up properly and you need to grasp how they all dovetail together.
Like any business its a fair bit of work at the start but if you set it up well it should run like clockwork if you have robots (the addons) doing the work for you.
I would say you do need half a brain to set this up - you cannot just load up all the addons I have detailed and start making gold.
For the astute business people out there I hope this helps!
Hëx Apr 13th 2010 11:37AM
Sorry to piggyback, but to add my two cents on my process and addons.
For inscription and glyphs, use a combination of Auctioneer and Quick Auctions (QA), plus a compatible trade window replacement (like ATSW or Lil' Sparky's version of Skillet).
I use my main as my Scribe, and three level 1 bank alts loaded with Many Pocket bags so I can store all glyphs on them without swapping bags at the bank.
There's a pretty good guide here:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/auction-house-guide-inscription/
For me personally, it goes something like this:
- Use Snatch (Auctioneer) to pick up herbs below a certain threshold
- Use Enchantrix's (Auctioneer) auto-milling functionality to help in the boring task of milling
- Use Glypher (Auctioneer) to decide what glyphs to make (the resulting list can automatically be exported to Skillet's crafting queue)
- Head over to a mail box, open it up, and start working through the queue (Quick Auction's auto mail function will automatically start sending things off to your bank-alt(s) as the glyphs are crafted - as many as you bag will hold crafted, then mailed)
- Log on your bank alts
- Use QA to cancel undercut glyphs (if desired)
- Use QA's mailbox functionality to empty the mailbox
- Mail your gold to your main, leaving 10G for AH fees.
- Use QA to post the glyphs
Lots of commitment is needed but its easy money as long as there aren't too many other really active mass producers of glyphs on your server. I post glyphs as often as twice a day or as little as every two days and bring in around 5K gold per day gross profit. (which doesn't account for outgoing for herbs, parchment, and the minimal AH fees) On a server with seveal very active competitors I've made enough to buy two Battered Hilts, two Traveler's Tundra Mammoths, and enough BOE/Crafted/Primordial Saronite items to gear my two mains up for high end ICC raids.
Matt Apr 13th 2010 7:20AM
My issue with inscription is that it is an incredibly boring profession in terms of everyday utility. The only non-glyph items I can create are off-hands, scrolls, vellum, and Darkmoon cards, and the off-hands are essentially worthless to me since my scribe is not a caster. I can see the value of the profession as a money-maker, but that doesn't interest me as much as how a profession can enhance my own game play. I'm waiting to see how Blizzard updates it for Cataclysm, but I am likely going to drop it for Alchemy if it continues to offer so little in terms of fun, useful craftables.
Basil Berntsen Apr 13th 2010 9:32AM
You get free shoulder enchants- it's the same basic type of bonus that all crafting professions have. Except engineering, which sucks for a lot of classes.
Darky Apr 13th 2010 9:40AM
engineering offers quite a dps boost if you use bombs every CD
Basil Berntsen Apr 13th 2010 10:00AM
ZOMG HAX
Tbah Apr 13th 2010 12:38PM
Don't forget the haste buff.
CaryEverett Apr 13th 2010 7:28AM
I found on my server, that Inscription is an utterly dead market.
Every inscription is selling for somewhere between 10-50% the cost of the mats, and most guilds have insanely large numbers of stacks of inscriptions. I know my guild bank had two whole tabs dedicated to inscriptions, and most of these were in near full stacks.
Virtually nobody buys inscriptions on the AH, and you are lucky if you can sell them no matter how low you list them.
It's a shame too. But the market is slowly improving as people have started dumping their Inscription and replace it with a different profession.
Basil Berntsen Apr 13th 2010 9:33AM
You mean glyphs?
Hard Dominator Apr 13th 2010 8:02AM
Don't keep undercutting because some guys posts it at a low price. If the price is below x% of the full price on your realm just buy it from him.
simon.homer Apr 13th 2010 8:26AM
NOOOOO! DO NOT DO THIS ! He will laugh and take your cash and then when you repost the glyphs you bought from him he will just post some more and undercut you again! (I should know thats what I do!).
NEVER EVER buy another sellers glyphs!
Bad bad business sense!
Do not worry about undercutting - post your glyphs on an undercut basis sure, then just forget about them for 48 hours. The undercutting campers cannot possibly do what they do forever so just outlast them and youll soon be raking in the cash.
Good luck!
Basil Berntsen Apr 13th 2010 9:36AM
They can and will keep undercutting. Everyone assumes that because you need to research a bunch of recipes and have a bunch of addons and alts, there will be no fierce competition. There usually is, and at least on my server, every time you post a batch, you'll have a couple of minutes before someone comes by and undercuts every single one of your glyphs.
simon.homer Apr 13th 2010 9:40AM
"They can and will keep undercutting."
Dont rise to it. Their Glyphs will sell and then yours will sell afterwards.
If they have the time to sit there and post, and the minute their stuff sells, repost some more then you cannot possibly compete with that. But that isnt realistic.
I assume we all have real lives here and have better things to do than sit and watch the AH all day?
Golis Apr 13th 2010 9:40AM
Simon...
You are absolutely correct here. My "glyph-maker" is just an alt I am using to level inscription so I don't have to buy them anymore.
I am going to undercut everyone out there just to unload bag space and then I will be gone
I am no threat to serious scribblers. You buying my glyphs so I never have to repost them just encourages me to make and post more