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4-23-2010 @ 10:03AM
I'm not too sure about your last comment about asking for help. Any person who I don't know that /whisper's me asking if I have some time I immediately put on my ignore list because of gold spammers.Although I don't mind helping people who have questions, I wouldn't advise people to /who and then randomly start whispering people. I think that's the worst advice you've ever given. Oh how I wish we played in an azeroth that didn't shun on people randomly whispering and asking for advice. sadly we do. You're best bet is to ask a question in the general chat, because that's what its there for. You won't be intruding in anyones game time and you'll get your answer, along with people being stupid but there's no way around that.I guess I'm also one of those people who doesn't like getting whispered from random people who see my high GS and ask "what is your rotation?". I'm not grumpy, just always strapped for time.
4-23-2010 @ 10:19AM
It's not bad advice to suggest /whisper'ing someone for help. You should just be wary about what you say when you do it. If you ask in a polite way with clear intentions, it shouldn't be a problem.Ie: "Hi, I'm just hit 80... I'm kind of stuck on which gems to pick. Could you help?"That probably works better than: "wut gems shud i get??!1"At the same time, if you don't have time, you can be polite about that as well."Sorry, can't chat - busy right now" as opposed to "wtf, l2p nub".Yeah, you'll get douchebags out there and what have you, but there's plenty of nice folk that are willing to help out, too.
4-23-2010 @ 11:12AM
I got a random whisper from someone the other day who couldn't figure out how to leave Undercity. Of course, I helped him. That place is a freakin' maze.
4-23-2010 @ 11:30AM
Meh, I've had someone whisper me randomly for advice before. Their spelling/grammar left a little to be desired, but I helped them out and gave them advice just the same.Though ya, when a level 1 in Durotar whispers me, "Hey", I say "I don't want your ****ing gold" and ignore them before they have a chance to say any more.
4-23-2010 @ 11:34AM
I agree that doing a /who and whispering people is a bad idea. If my 80 is running around low level zones, it's because my daughter has decided she wants to push the buttons, not because I want to adopt lowbies and mentor them (she is particularly fond of jumping and running into trees). I think a much better idea would be to ask in guild if there's someone who can help, either for a recommendation of who to talk to or if someone online knows the answer to the question. The person then could also be directed to various websites that all have various information to look through.
4-23-2010 @ 11:37AM
@(cutaia) Some of us who played EQ actually deleted new characters who got lost in the bowels of Neriak. True story.
4-23-2010 @ 12:12PM
i didnt say it was bad adivce whispering someone for help I said it was bad just to do a /who and then eeny meany miney moe a person to ask a question. honestly when people ask me questions I usually answer them, mostly because I would feel like a jerk if I didnt even tho I'm busy, so just ask general chat and wait for someone to reply instead of putting someone on the spot, seriously its kinda intruding even if you ask politely.
4-23-2010 @ 12:56PM
I'm much more likely to respond to a random /whisper asking for help if it's in a complete sentence and phrased politely, with an attempt at proper spelling/grammar.Random "Hey" gets someone ignored. Because 9 times out of 10 an obnoxious request for money/food/portals will follow. Yeah, I'm a bitch, but I'm also a frustrated mage.
4-23-2010 @ 1:16PM
Back in mid-BC I had a warrior tank who had just gotten kicked from a heroic run send me a random tell while I was at the bank in Shatt asking for some tanking advice. I had 30 minutes to kill before a raid so I gave him some gearing advice and then took him to the little ogre plateau above Shatt to show him some techniques. About once a week or two he'd send me tells asking me this or that and I'd help him out. I even tagged along on my shammy for a (scary) heroic run a couple of times.I took a break from WoW about six months ago and when I came back (and geared up a bit) I was PuG'd into a guild's ICC run and it turns out that same guy was now their main tank. I was worried at first then I noticed he was dripping in ICC gear and he turned out to be a damn good tank. I'm not normally a very nice person so that warm fuzzy feeling was new and pretty cool.
4-23-2010 @ 1:32PM
omg, to who mentioned the undercity, I completely agree. I played this game way back in the beginning stages of beta, and no one knew how to get into UC, you basically had to accidentally find your way in. I remember I fell down and died, and after a ghost run I realized there was an elevator lol. I can totally understand anyone new to this game if they have problems getting in that place, even though it isn't as hard as it was back then, its still bad for newbies. The only other place I have found that I hated more in all the MMO's I have played over the many years, old EQ Neriak, that place SUCKED! until you could find a map then it wasn't that bad, but still sucked :)
4-23-2010 @ 2:07PM
I think if you are clear about your question right away when whispering, and it's specifically about a class/profession that whispering is fine. General chat works well for quest questions. The benefit of whispering on some topics, is if someone thinks your question is dumb, you won't be mocked mercilessly. I do hate when people do that, though it happens far more often in cities then in general.I answer clear and concise whispers, and if I'm too busy, I specifically say so. The ones that bother me are people who have one question, then suddenly think we are best buddies and I'll help them level for the rest of the day.
4-23-2010 @ 2:24PM
I don't think that doing a /who for help from other players is bad advice at all!When I leveled my first toon, I did it without addons, such as Carbonite, Lightheaded, etc. and without checking websites likes Thottbot because I wanted to figure things out for myself the first time around. I'd only ask for help in trade chat whenever I was really stuck, and while some people were decent enough to reply with advice or directions, most of the time I'd get stuck in a flurry of "look how witty I am by making fun of the noob in chat!" banter that would just annoy me and waste my time completely.I would do a /who and then select someone from my class who was in a city (less likelihood of interrupting their grinding/questing). I'd ask *very politely* if they would mind giving me advice on something, since I was confused about where to go/what to do. Nine times out of ten people replied- and even better, often became buddies and even "mentors." Once, while asking for advice on a class-specific quest, a higher-level player not only gave me advice, but rode out across the map to help me, since he remembered what a pain that quest had been to solo. I think it's all in how you approach people and you need to respect the fact that some will not be interested. Still, it was one of the best ways I found to get advice and even make new friends on my server. Now I try to do the same for other people who are new to the game, although I am more willing to help when they genuinely seem to appreciate my time rather than expect me to cater to them.
4-23-2010 @ 6:46PM
Asking for help from someone you see going about town is a good idea. Randomly /whispering people you pull off the /who list is spamming, and you should expect whatever very hostile responses you might end up getting because of it. Some people don't mind spam but a lot of people do, particularly when they're right in the middle of something (and "I didn't know you were right in the middle of something" is precisely the point -- if you can't see my on your screen and see what I'm doing, you must be randomly spamming people to even be whispering me, and getting spammed really, really annoys me -- if you weren't being an impolite jerkwad, there'd be no danger of you interrupting me in the middle of the fight because you'd already know I wasn't in the middle of a fight because you wouldn't be spamming me without even being able to see me -- the fact that you don't even know whether I'm in the middle of something or not but spammed me anyway makes you an even bigger jerkwad than someone "doing it intentionally").
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