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4-26-2010 @ 11:37PM
My first reaction this morning was :what a dull day this will be.After reading this it is : What the hell?!I , for one , prefer the current emblem system (it may be becouse I got used to it) . So I am really shocked to hear this. All I can do is hope that Blizz will make it feal like the current system with just a different UI.On a further note, they will have to reshuffle the current costs of pvp items , aswell take decisions on how will low level players interact with honor points.
4-26-2010 @ 11:39PM
To edit : me thinks the new system sounds promissing , but will need polishing.
4-26-2010 @ 11:47PM
Nothing is changing besides the fact they're removing the necessity to downgrade potentially hundreds of badges.
4-26-2010 @ 11:49PM
but the new system is basically polishing the old system
4-27-2010 @ 4:14AM
How can you say it need "polishing" when we've only gotten a quick overview of what they are planning? You don't know any details!
4-27-2010 @ 6:34AM
It IS like the current system, really, just that you can now in essence earn fractions of an emblem. For example, say 1 emblem = 1000 points and you earn 4500 points for defeating a dungeon. The flexibility is nice though. You can do only what you like to do so if you hate Arena, you don't HAVE TO do it, just for the sake of competing. The point-ceiling may piss off the hard-core raiders/PVPers though.
4-27-2010 @ 9:57AM
@Eli: but there is slight difference with the current system. You can now stockpile Hero points to prepare for a new patch release.For example, when TOC was the highest tier, you couldn't get Triumph from heroics. You can run heroics to earn Conquest and stockpile like a million of them, but not Triumph. And bam, ICC was released, your Conquest didn't magically become Triumph, and T9 still costs Triumph.With this system, you can stockpile Hero points until the cap, and when the new tier of raiding is released, you can buy maybe one or two pieces of the new tier immediately. I'm very interested to know the pricing, cap, and the reward rate from each boss to see how this all plays out.
4-27-2010 @ 10:27AM
@HendrataI think that you completely misread the post?'For instance, if a new tier of raid gear is released, your Valor points will be converted to Hero points, and similarly if a new PvP season begins your Conquest points will be converted to Honor points. Of course that means with these new releases you'll always begin without any of the higher tier of points, and thus be unable to stockpile them.'You will not be able to stockpile anything to get the new tier of items right away. Your current high level "points" will be converted into the lower level "points", much like trading down frost badges to triumph.
4-27-2010 @ 11:04AM
HMF, Hendrata makes a good point, and didn't misread the post. Although it states that Valor points will be converted into Hero points, it says nothing about wiping the Hero points you had before the new tier came out. I think that they would probably let you keep your old Hero points and add your new ones up to the cap, because these are for the casual players, and it would be a huge turn off for them if every time a new tier came out they lost all the points they had been saving, especially if they dont log on every day.this would make it a more even playing field when each new tier came out, but the more hardcore raiders would soon pull ahead in collecting Valor points by raiding.
4-27-2010 @ 11:10AM
I think I understand what Hendrata is saying.The question which was not answered is this: What happens to your Hero points when a new tier is released? Do they go *poof*, or do they stay, and get added to the (former) Valor points.To put it in Wrath terms by an example: You raid Naxx and get 1000 Valor points. You then quit for a year and come back during ICC. Do you now have 1000 Hero points to spend on ToC gear, or did all your points go away when the ToC tier was released?
4-27-2010 @ 11:29AM
HMF is correct, and Hendrata missed the point. From Hendrata's post:"With this system, you can stockpile Hero points until the cap, and when the new tier of raiding is released, you can buy maybe one or two pieces of the new tier immediately. "That's the part where you're wrong. From the blue post:"with these new releases [of the next tier of gear] you'll always begin without any of the higher tier of points"You can stockpile and buy a bunch of the *previous* tier set with the new release, but not the *new* tier.
4-27-2010 @ 1:08PM
Sorry yeah I misspoke, when I said "when the new tier of raiding is released, you can buy maybe one or two pieces of the new tier immediately. " what I meant was this:when ICC is released, us casuals can buy maybe one or two pieces of T9 immediately if we've been saving all our Hero points. Of course no one should be able to buy T10 immediately, everyone will have to grind it back from zero.
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