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4-27-2010 @ 8:18AM
maybe it's just us that are getting older and harder to impress?
4-27-2010 @ 8:27AM
This, plus the nostalgia factor. If Molten Core was first released now as a 40 man, almost no guilds would do it, and then they'd complain it wasn't as epic as something else, like seeing Onyxia lying in wait.
4-27-2010 @ 8:54AM
Yup. Pretty big nostalgia goggles in the OP. I'm guessing when they were on Rags that was the first big raid moment for them... yeah moments like that are epic, and rags is a truely epic fight, but the feeling dimishes the more you experience it. Hell, the first time i entered my first contested zone on my first toon it felt pretty epic, or when you realise just how big the old world it. But i don't expect every new zone i enter from then on to feel the same. There are plenty of epic moments in wrath that you probably don;t notice as much when you're jaded by past experience.. the floor dropping away at the start p3 Maly, and the train ride and first glimpse of The Spark of Imagination. I do agree that a fair bit of Wrath did feel a bit flat (naxx being old content, ToC feeling thrown together and ICC missing 'something' that ulduar had), but theres still a lot of epicness to be had this xpack.
4-27-2010 @ 9:33AM
I'm going to agree completely. I first came into WoW late in BC, so my first raiding experience was in Wrath-era Naxx. Finishing off Kel'Thuzad was pretty dang epic as far as I was concerned. Ulduar? That was a place of grand splendor. Working my way to Mimiron left me with that sense of awe and wonder, and working my way down to the General, seeing the decay, left me with a sense of fear and anticipation. Perhaps there's just that cynicism and jadedness that comes with experience . . . familiarity breeds resentment and such.
4-27-2010 @ 9:43AM
I also think it related to how long you have been playing WoW and what you did before. I started playing a bit after TBC was released and when I hit 70 I just played PVP didn't have any desire whatsoever to PVE at that time. Enter Wrath. I started raiding and I have had many many moments that felt epic. And lots of fun.Had I raided all the way since vanilla, then the experience might just have been different.
It's impossible to say if it's nostalgia or not. Maybe the raids were more epic before? Maybe they weren't. The game has changed so much that there's really no way to compare for example Ragnaros pre-BC and the Lich King today.Nostalgia is obviously involved when looking back at a fond memory, but just because it's there doesn't make the memory less true. Take BRD for example. It was my favourite instance back pre-BC, and it still is today. The "epic" in BRD is much greater to me than in the 15-min WLK heroics with three bosses and a few mobs scattered between.
4-27-2010 @ 10:18AM
Why does it always have to be rose colored glasses? Why do we always have to like new just because it is shiny. I like my old dogI like my old walletI like my old coffee cupI like my old jeansAnd I like my old 40 man raids. Look it is ok to like different things. Do us old Vanilla players know there were problems with Vanilla? Sure. Of course. But it doesn't make our opinions any more or less valid. And it doesn't mean it is tinted with Rose colored glasses. It was 5 years ago. Not 20.
4-27-2010 @ 11:25AM
No, there is also some psychological factor, where "accessible" has become "less epic". Their biggest mistake was releasing Naxx as EZ-mode raids, where we were able to directly compare how big the nerf was from Naxx epic 40-man, versus Lawl Naxx EZ-mode. The game still hasn't recovered the epic feeling that Naxx made us lose.
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