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4-30-2010 @ 4:56PM
I don't play a boomy or anything, but my percieved nature of the eclipse change is that since dots will naturally be hasted, and there is one on each side of the spectrum, I'm thinking one dot will dramatically outpace the other. Doing that "forces" the meter to gravitate toward one side, while you desperately cast to get it into line. The eclipse meter doesn't have to be a linear relationship either. Heck they said they want interesting talents too? Take this on for size. Deep balance talent "Sunny Day" - When the solar bar becomes full, your starfire has X% chance to singe the target causing them to take Y arcane damage for Z seconds. If this damage crits is causes double solar power. It continually forces the eclipse toward the side your already on, it's random, but still provides damage. I'm pretty excited with what they churn out. Blizzard likes the RNG as long as it's manage, so I'm pretty sure there will be some talents like that.
4-30-2010 @ 5:15PM
The issue with a talent like that is that it won't help our haste scaling issue. The current Eclipse model has us casting Wrath a lot...I'd say roughly half of an encounter. Meaning that half our spell casts don't show benefit from the stat assuming decent Nature's Grace uptime. So if we get yet another talent that pushes towards Wrath, our haste scaling will probably stay pretty terrible, even with hasted DoTs and Starfire's amazing haste scaling. Wrath will always be a Thorn in our side in terms of haste. And making it slower isn't the answer.
4-30-2010 @ 5:17PM
DoT ticks causing the Eclipse bar to slide would certainly add an interesting variable, but not one that is overtly extreme. If the system is based around damage done; our DoTs deal such pitiful damage in relation to our nukes that it would be impossible for them to cause a more dramatic shift in Eclipse than simple casting would. If you go on a set sliding scale based on casting, then it is more likely that DoT ticks would still have a very low impact on the scale due to the normalization. Not saying it isn't impossible to create a system where this is what happens, it certain is possible, it just seems that such a system is unlikely.
4-30-2010 @ 11:49PM
On the subject of DoTs: since there's (currently) one on each side of the scale, and (as I recall, anyway, not that it matters that much) they have differing durations, might arranging as much of a buff for the DoT as you can manage become an important part of the rotation?To be clear, I mean chain-casting Wrath because you need to reapply Moonfire. Or replace those with Starfire and Insect Swarm. The biggest problem there would seem to be that it could take a while to ramp up to full DPS if you were expected to hit each extreme before you were really doing your designed damage.On the other hand, someone who could really manage Eclipse with their DoTs would stand out.
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