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The latest patch 5.4 newsThe Daily Quest: Children's Week
by Robin Torres 
May 3rd 2010 at 9:00PM
It's holiday time again in World of Warcraft and this week it's all about orphans. We are introducing them to dragons, taking them into battlegrounds and abandoning them on zeppelin platforms in droves. The blogging community has a few things to say about them too.
- Cynwise's Battlefield Manual has a comprehensive guide to the School of Hard Knocks.
- Cynwise also suggests A Modest Proposal, which I highly recommend.
- A Healadin's Tear has some tips for the much maligned battleground achievement as well in For the Children!
- Big Bear Butt chronicles his time with his orphans in Limping into Children's Week.
- Gauss ponders The Orphan's Future in Gauss' Adventures in World of Warcraft.
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 3)
yarf May 4th 2010 12:56PM
I was on a pedestal? Besides, it's not my achievement. It just bugs me that people QQ about this and then compare it to the scourge event in regards to blizz's reaction.
That's like comparing apples and oranges. They aren't even remotely the same.
Now, please note... I never once said whether I liked the achievement or not, which for the record I really don't. I did it. Thousands of others did it. I got my drake. Thousands of others got theirs. It's not an impossible achievement to do, people just look at anything PVP and go "ZOMG NOWAI!" and cry because they a) aren't pvpers, or b) don't LIKE PVP.
I mean sure, people roll on a normal realm so they don't have to PVP but then there are achievements like this that force them to.
I rolled on a PVP server and played a priest. A shadow priest in PVE gear is squishy. Sure, we can do a decent amount of damage but if you have resilience you can just laugh as you faceroll me.
That was my point. Never meant to come across as saying I'm better than anyone else, so for that I do apologize. Just sick of the QQ. :(
anne May 4th 2010 2:55PM
In general I like both bgs and pve play. I have 5 80's and in pursuit of the silly (but omg I want one) Violet Drake, I have earned the holiday title on all of them since Hallow's End. Across Sunday and Monday they all became Matrons, which means yes, I did the School of Hard Knocks 5 times--sometimes with substantial "tower sharing" and sometimes the hard way. And, once I got my flag or tower, I finished the bgs and topped the dps meters on my casters.
(Well...I did drop wsg once since no one was actually playing, just dropping the flag for each other. I figured someone else needing the achievement should come in rather than have me just stand there after I finished.)
But I did it 5 times, and I hated it 5 times. I have played every bg before and enjoyed them. But I enjoy my bg play because I can take the role that I'm best at--which is almost never the one capturing flags and assaulting towers. I back up the people who do that...defend or heal them as they run...and generally kill the opposing faction in a variety of unsavory ways.
As many have pointed out, this isn't qq'ing about making pve players do pvp for a well-rounded set of achievements. That's fine, and I'm glad they do it. I never would have discovered that I enjoyed bgs otherwise. But this one is poorly designed, gives bgs a bad name, and ruins substantial amounts of game time both for those who enjoy pvp and for those who don't.
Blizz can design an achievement that gets players into pvp without ruining the gameplay there for a week, thus destroying fun for pvp players and the reputation of pvp play with pve players.
vinniedcleaner May 4th 2010 7:20PM
I love you, TR. :-)
In all seriousness, the main complaint that I heard people had during the invasion was that they couldn't finish quests because they kept getting turned into zombies. What's a quest if not just another form of an achievement?
To put your analogy of the fat man in the wheelchair into perspective. SoHK is similar to the guy wanting to get ou tof the chair to throw away the twinkies, but everytime he tried, someone would push him back down. And if by some stroke od luck he made it past that person, he was met with other people who wanted to throw away the twinkies first.
BTW, I am no stranger to PvP and I have completed the achievement, but rather than jump on the "it's easy, quit complaining, just do it, you just want it handed to you" bandwagon like some people, I'm willing to point out the fact that this achievement is ill conceived and needs to be revamped so that it requires the same amount of effort without it depending on external influences.