Gold Capped: Casual auctioneering

Making money in game can seem complex. Well, it is. The real pros have addons and UI customizations most people would never bother developing, keen understanding of the chains of supply and demand in the in-game economy, as well as inordinate amounts of time to spend in the auction house. What if you're just out to fund your epic flyer, though?
If you're reading my column to see whether there's a cap on the amount of gold you can stuff into a guild bank, chances are you've already carved out a niche for yourself. If, however, you don't plan on spending any more time in the AH than you absolutely need to, what can you do to make more money there than you make grinding dailies?
Let's look at the characteristics of the kind of business that best suits the part-timer, or someone with limited interest:
- Low up-front investment: you want to be able to start without having to grind and do dailies to get start-up capital
- Minimal risk: you don't want to lose money, you want to make it
- Low complexity: if it requires three addons and the need to write macros to be profitable, it's not easy money
Making money has never been easier. Blizzard has had years to work on quality of life improvements that have delivered us unprecedented ease of doing business. Significantly, the auction house now contains, as a base, some of the very functionality that we used to rely on addons for: the ability to post multiple auctions at the same time.
Market swings
Market prices swing reliably week over week. Tuesdays are big raid nights, and Saturday and Sunday have the most people playing casually. This leads to certain items being reliably more expensive or cheap one night or another.
- Things raiders need will sell for higher prices on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Look into gems, enchantments, flasks, potions, enchanting mats and stat food.
- Things raiders sell tend to get cheaper that day -- specifically Primordial Saronite, which is in much higher supply when people get their weekly ration of Emblems of Frost. I wouldn't suggest trying too hard on this one, though, because these things will only drop in the long run. Still, week to week, you can count on the supply being much higher on Tuesdays than, say, Saturdays.
- Things that 10-man PUGs need are in higher demand on Tuesdays and Saturdays: Drums of the Wild, Forgotten Kings and Runescroll of Fortitude all provide buffs that are often missing in 10-mans.
- Raw materials (herbs, ore, leather, etc.) all tend to be cheaper early in the mornings.
Simple conversions
Sometimes people sell things for less than what you can convert them to. I'm going to include some common ones that require tradeskills here; however, if you don't have access to the required skill, see if your friends do.
- If you see Cobalt Ore selling for 25g a stack where the bars are going for 40g a stack, smelt them with a miner and sell the bars.
- If you see Borean Leather Scraps going for less than one-fifth of the price of Borean Leather, you don't even need a leatherworker to convert them.
- If Borean Leather is going for less than one-sixth of Heavy Borean Leather, find a leatherworker to make that conversion for you.
- If Heavy Borean Leather is less than one-tenth of the price for an Arctic Fur, visit Braeg Stoutbeard in Dalaran and you can trade them 10 for 1, no trade skills needed.
- If Frozen Orbs are going for less than anything Frozo sells (notably Crusader Orbs, Runed Orbs and Eternal Fire), buy the orbs and sell the trade-in.
- If Crystallized Fire is more than one-tenth of Eternal Fire (same goes for any other elemental), you can break the eternals down and sell the crystals.
The best market you have will probably be the trade skills you have access to. No matter what level they are, most crafting professions have something they can make for a profit. A large number of posts I've written so far have been about how to use trade skills to make money. Even if you have a gathering profession, see if any of the conversions you can make are worth money.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 2)
reillymarkw May 6th 2010 10:19AM
Another disagreement -- if undercutting by 30 percent helps you make the sale at a profit, do it.
Casual AH players don't have time to do the undercut-by-a-silver dance, because that's what it becomes: A dance, in which you and the competition keep shaving a few pennies off the price, then relist the stuff when the auctions expire
That'll work for some people, but I don't want to keep checking the AH to see whether it's time to drop my prices by another 1 percent. I just want the stuff to sell in one posting and make a profit.
I typically undercut enough to be noticeable and make the buyer feel like it's an unusually good deal -- better click 'buyout' now, or it'll be gone. If there's obviously a price war already on or if undercutting will reduce my profit more than I want, I stay out altogether for a day or so, then check back.
I don't use any addons, by the way. I'm sure they're great, but you don't really need 'em.
CaryEverett May 6th 2010 6:34AM
"Raw materials (herbs, ore, leather, etc.) all tend to be cheaper early in the mornings."
DAMN IT
I love you guys. But I hate when ya'll name one of the strategies I use reguarly.
I've been buying gems/ore/enchantmats every morning for over a year. Huge easy money to sell them in the afternoon. Very easy.
I think things get undercut a lot more overnight when there aren't as many people buying. Which is why it works so well.
CaryEverett May 6th 2010 6:36AM
*laughs* 10-15 minutes in the morning before I go to work on the Auction House = hundreds if not over a thousand gold profit when I return in the afternoon.
Yvels May 6th 2010 10:39AM
Hear this : waste of time. i'm over 240kg right now and yes i've tried pretty much all AH trick i found on web. Yes, i made a lot of gold, sometimes I had over 800 auctions rolling. But trust me when i popped my banker /played with DAYS of AH dealing it kinda scared me. WTF am-I doing ??? Wanna hear the easiest way to make gold ? I mean REAL EASY WAY without spending hours posting retrieving mail paying dozens of gold for your auctions and making copper or so ? GDAMN PETS. Get your little dusty hunter level 40-50 sitting in ORG bored as hell since BC came out or we toon you have and go farm tha damn perrot in booty bay (sold 2 in AH in 1 months period for 15000g each) have 1 toon level 65-70 sitting in SH ? go farm Firefly (sold 3 for 10000g each) no1 sell it ? post INSANELY HIGH . Who cares ? it cost copper to keep up in AH . Now i have 5 auctions rolling up all the time. Yeah, I maybe sell 1 pet /week or month but hell i can now raid and when i have Item sold i know i'll make amazing amount not 3 gold from trillions stacks in AH ... same applies to the rest of pets ... and did i forgot ? you get XP too lol
Ultranator May 6th 2010 9:34AM
Question, I've been buying a lot of ore lately to smelt and resell, but the problem is that lots of people sell in stacks of 1, so it requires me to click buy out and ok... a lot. Is there a script/macro/add on that can let me buy multiple auctions at once?
Alexa May 6th 2010 9:44AM
Auctionator is an addon which helps with this. You can search for an item (ex: Cobalt Ore) in the "Buy" tab. It'll show something like 42 stacks posted with 1 item per stack @ 2g each. Then, you can indicate how many of those 42 stacks you'd like to buy. If you click 30, then it'll quickly auto-buy all 30 stacks.
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/auctionator.aspx
Faith Trust May 6th 2010 12:55PM
does auctioneer have a similar function?
Basil Berntsen May 6th 2010 2:21PM
Sorry faith, not that I've discovered. I've enabled one click buy, however, so I can buy 30 auctions with thirty right clicks. I might create a feature request on the Auctioneer site, though, as this would be a really nice tool.
Blacksheep May 6th 2010 10:49AM
Thanks for the additional tips guys :) I also tend to farm and fish only when I need to craft stuff for myself. I have max LW, max skinning, max mining and max engineering, think I'd be able to make more money from that eh? Think my timing is just off, like I put 4 drums up once, took them a week to sell and I reduced prices 4 or 5 times.
Basil Berntsen May 6th 2010 9:11PM
Try selling the new engineering pets :)
Blacksheep May 6th 2010 9:36PM
Oh, I didn't even know there were new engineering pets lol, thanks Basil, I will try and find them :)
Faith Trust May 9th 2010 11:26AM
they arent exactly new, they are the pets you get from gnomer, only they are not bop anymore..
Amaxe-1 May 6th 2010 11:14AM
Also remember that it isn't only Northrend where the profits are made. As people change professions or level lower level toons, they will want to power level and buying is faster than grinding.
This is where I find that lower level toons who are gatherers will help contribute to the funds simply by picking up the leather and ore where they are leveling because there is a fairly good demand for leather and ore. In some ways I think they are more lucrative than the Northrend ores and leathers... because most of the toons are in the 68-80 bracket and those who aren't are racing to get there.
Never underestimate the value of the meats you can pick up. When I was grinding wintersaber rep, I found the bear flank went for an unusually high amount because of the cooking power leveling. This may have changed since the Thanksgiving holiday (whatever they called it) made powerleveling cooking so easy.
Also remember the possibility of recouping *some* of your expenses. While you may need what you smelt if you have a crafting profession, if you are a scavenger (mining+Skinning) and you need to power level mining through smelting, you can get some money back through selling what you smelted, especially if some raiders are your typical JC+BS. Usually ore sells better than bars on my server since people want to level their JC through getting prospectable ore or want to smelt their own ore to level mining, but professions like Engineering or BS requires a lot of bars
I find that Auction Lite works well as an auction tool as it can scan similar auctions for an item you want to sell and give a competitive price which undercuts the other prices. It isn't perfect though. Some lower level greens can have a 3x vendor price if there are no similar items on the AH... but someone may be willing to pay more to outfit an alt. I like it because I simply alt right click an item and it scans the AH to see whether it is worth selling.
Perhaps I am stating the obvious here but these are some basic tips which work for me.
Danafi May 15th 2010 10:23PM
How do you beat someone who has Quick Auctions 3? This guy on my server has it and rules just about everything! He's on 24/7 and relists an auction to under cut you in 3 secs after you post. He controls enchanting mats, enchanting scrolls, special cloths, gems, potions, and gyphs! I can't put anything from my tradeskills on any of my characters to make money because he under cuts me and if I get to the profit limit he just buys it out.