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5-05-2010 @ 5:20PM
I hate that pallies have the reputation, as there are obviously those of us that are truly good at our class. I really want the chance to prove it. In LK, everyone I knew rolled a pally because they were the flavor of the month. I want to be the worst flavor, so that people know I am good if I can make the worst flavor taste delicious!
5-05-2010 @ 6:56PM
I was a bit dismayed when I learned this about paladins. I started playing about a month after LK launched, and my first toon was a pally, simply because I've always liked the "holy warrior" thing. I had no clue as to which classes were considered "OP" or "faceroll". Paladin was my favorite class in Diablo II, and I would have played paladins in D&D if I hadn't always gotten stuck playing wizards or sorcerers because everybody else in my group avoided arcane casters like the plague (though after a while I figured out *why* nobody in my group wanted to play an arcane caster - the DM had some sort of mad-on against them and every encounter involved monsters "taking out the wizard first" and every low-level boss wearing that amulet that absorbs Magic Missiles).
5-05-2010 @ 9:37PM
I still can't believe anyone makes fun of Pally Ret rotation......Have they seen arcane mages? 2 button rotation once its all macro'd up =/I have no idea why people think Ret pally is so easy ......Feral tank? all you need is swipe once your geared enough...everdone 4 heroics in a row and just pressed the number "1" all the way though?I have multiple toons at 80, but my main has be ret since Lolret pre TBC, rets are great now, but are not nealry as OP as they were just before wrath hit. i just done see why the get so bagged on.
5-06-2010 @ 5:10AM
@ Eturyu The reason pallys (ret) get bagged on still, is because there is no learning curve to the class. Anyone can come into the class on day 1 and just mash any button thats off cooldown, and have mostly the same amount of success as an experienced player.I have a number of level 80's, including an arcane mage, a feral tank, and a prot/ret pally, all of which I raid ICC with. And while you are right that they all have simplistic rotations there is a difference;Arcane mages need to do research first to understand how best to use their arcane blast buff, always playing a balancing game with stacks and mana pool. Yes its a simple rotation, but has plenty of room for finesse with playing a balancing act that sets the great mages apart from the average mages.Feral tanks have to work damn hard for their gear at the start. With arguably the most limited tanking toolbox to work with, the most painful caster tanking experience, and threat generation that relies so heavily on your weapon, its a pain at lower gear levels. Once you've hit the higher gear levels then yes, you get to run around just spamming swipe and queuing maul, but thats only once you overgear an instance. Simple? yes, but its your 'reward' for having gone through a shit-curve of hassle to get there.
5-06-2010 @ 4:16PM
"There is no learning curve to the class" is just not accurate. A good ret paladin does about 50% more damage than a button masher, not to mention the non-dps abilities in abundance that good raider has to understand. I don't argue that there are more complex classes, but let's not overstate things.And arcane mages balancing "stacks with mana pool"...sounds exactly like what a ret paladin has to do...except we have to choose between more than 2 spells.
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