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5-09-2010 @ 4:20PM
Our guild uses an odd but functional loot reel. You start at the bottom if you just join our raid for the first time. If you want a piece of gear that drops, you whisper the master looter and place a bid. If you are the highest on the reel, you get the piece of gear and drop to the bottom of the reel. This works great since many people have got geared up with a minimum of loot complaints (which used to be quite common).This means there's a sort of mini-game where if you bid on a main-spec item and you're near the top of the reel, you'll get the item, but since many people want to bid on main-spec items and don't want to lose their spot on the reel, they won't bid on off-spec items... unless they're at the bottom already and they bid like mad on anything they could use. This means that when it rains it pours, since (for example) I got 2 ilvl 264 items in one ICC25 run simply due to the fact that I was high on the reel, bid on a great tanking necklace and then a set of DPS shoulders dropped that no one wanted since it was off-spec for most or would break a set bonus for some.This means it's not bad to gear up off-spec in only one type of raid per week. It does mean that more single-role characters save up their reel spot for Marks of Sanctification and most hybrids still have ilvl 251 tier gear, but it's been fair more or less.Anyway, my two cents on how to solve your issues.
5-09-2010 @ 4:29PM
That's a brilliant system!It needs a name though.....how about 'Suicide Kings'?
5-09-2010 @ 4:33PM
I like the SK system; it's pretty fair for people who run in the group regularly. Not quite so far for pugs in the group, as usually the very first run they are too far down the list to win anything unless nobody in the regular group needs it. But overall, pretty fair.However, it doesn't address the off-spec needs of hybrids, which is what this article was about.
5-09-2010 @ 4:40PM
I'm not the person who picked the system, so I wasn't aware of the name . Regardless, my point relating to the article is that most of our hybrids ARE getting geared using this method since they just have to be smart enough to bid like mad on off-spec stuff when they're low on the reel. Just my observation that there are systems that are allowing off-specs to get some decent gear. Sure, I still have a few pieces of T9.5 on my DPS set, but not many.
5-09-2010 @ 6:49PM
My guild uses the SK system and loves it. However we use the list for only mainspec pieces. If a piece gets no bids then all offspecs roll on it. To aviod issues, if you are seen wearing a piece you rolled on for offspec while raiding in your main spec you get thrown to the bottom of the list and possibly forced to stay there for a while (or worse). We really don't like loot whores in our guild, they aren't tolerated. We also use a separate list for tier tokens, to avoid people siting at the top of the list just to get tier. In this way the tier tokens are given in a very linear manner, after you get your token you have to wait until everyone else there gets one before you get your second one. Its a very fair system, we haven't had any major loot issues since we went to it at the beginning of wrath.Back on topic of the original post. I see offspec's working how they always have in wrath. Your offspec will generally be one tier below your mainspec, until the current tier is on farm. Run the current tier to gear out your mainspec, on off days take your guild to the previous tier raids for your offpsec, no lockout issues to deal with. I really don't see any complications with there only being one lockout. You may get offspec gear slower, but so will everyone else.
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