Insider Trader: Powerleveling professions on the cheap

Professions are expensive! Getting a crafting skill to 450 involves geting all kinds of finnicky odd-ball mats from content that nobody ever runs these days, which typically means paying a whole lot for them. On top of it, all the stuff you make is pretty much valueless, and often fetches more at the vendor than it will in the auction house. What can you do to help turn these lemons into lemonade?
First off, it helps if you're popular, smart, and patient. Popular people have friends who have tradeskills that might be able to help stem the losses, smart people have addons that can provide them with valuable information, and patient people are not at the mercy of low supply.
Popular
Well, if not popular, per se, at least friendly and willing to network. Seriously, the most expensive part of leveling a tradeskill is vendoring all the stuff you make to level. If you had the ability to lean on, say, and enchanter friend of yours, you could ask them to disenchant anything you make that is disenchantable. You'd be surprised how much these older enchanting mats go for. In fact, if you ever find yourself making something where the mats you are using are worth less than the enchanting mats you get out of it, keep using that recipe until it turns grey, no matter what your powerleveling guide says. If you are making money at any step along the way, milk it. Also, note down what you are doing for later, as you might be interested in doing this over the long run to help finance later, profitless steps toward tradeskill mastery.
In addition to a pocket enchanter, it can help to have friends who can provide other services for you:
- If you're leveling something like blacksmithing or engineering which uses a lot of bars, being able to buy ore and have a friend smelt it for you will often reduce your costs. Ore is usually more plentiful and less expensive than bars. Usually.
- If you're leveling inscription, it helps to have a friend with a high inscription skill, because Northrend herbs are often cheaper than whatever the herbs you can actually mill at your level. After milling, Northrend herb based Ink of the Sea can be traded for any of the low level common ink in Dalaran.
- If you're leveling virtually any crafting skill, it helps to have a friend leveling a gathering skill. While I would recommend against picking gathering yourself, if you have a friend that doesn't take good advice, you can probably work out an arrangement with them where you can buy all the low level stuff they farm.
Smart
Knowing the basics of the auction house and having a few addons can really make a difference between spending 7000g to powerlevel something like enchanting and making a profit. The skills involved in getting skill capped cheaply are, conveniently, the same ones you use to make money in the AH once you're there. You need to know how to buy on the cheap, as well as how to sell efficiently. Still, whether you plan on doing a little auctioneering or not once you hit your goal, using the tools in those posts will help push you in the direction of profitability through lower costs or higher income from crafted goods.
Another tool you can use to great effect is Lilsparky's Workshop and the Lilsparky fork of Skillet. When combined with Auctioneer, these will allow you to see the cost and market price for the recipes you have access to, allowing you to minimize losses and maximize profits. Using this data instead of following a leveling guide strictly can be a huge advantage. The mats you need to follow advice in a leveling guide are the same mats everyone reading that guide needs. If there's a cheaper path, these addons can show it to you.
Patient
Slow and steady won't win you any races, but if you can afford the luxury of waiting, you'll be able to do just about everything cheaper. Make a list of the stuff you'll probably need, watch prices every day to get an idea of what it's worth, and make a point of picking it up whenever there's a good price. A lot of time, there may not be enough supply of whatever you need at a fair price to get to the next step. Being able to wait instead of buying the overpriced stock will save you money.
Of course, the problem with this is that you might buy too much. Don't let that phase you, though. You can always sell it back on the auction house. And if you wait long enough, you might find someone rushing through their skill that is willing to pay a premium.
If you're not sure about the value of items, get in the habit of keeping Market Watcher up to date. You can install that addon, add everything you'll need to its watch list, and look at a graph of the prices over time.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
Theis May 11th 2010 11:22AM
Me neither :-(
Snuzzle May 11th 2010 11:01AM
I've never kited them, I just usually say something like "brb real quick, emergency bio" and then go afk and make a sandwich or something.
Of course, I've never really had enough gold to make them wet their pants like in the intro. If I ever saw someone put that much in trade, I'd probably wet my pants, too.
Gothia May 11th 2010 3:56AM
Popular - Smart - Patient = Needy
Instead why don't you teach people to be self-sufficient instead of being needy - you should have at the very least a disenchanter or this powerleveled toon will be the disenchanter, This topic is supposed to be about powerleveling a profession, not the 1, 2, 3's of saving gold. If you were to do that then powerleveling is pointless, plus you should have the foresight to #1 researched materials, #2 gathered / purchased required materials, #3 Plan for disposal / resale / disenchant of crafted materials.
This is worse than the Mmo-kid guide put out by Boub.
Neyssa May 11th 2010 4:15AM
"This topic is supposed to be about powerleveling a profession, not the 1, 2, 3's of saving gold." ---> well, no. Check column title.
Insider Trader ---> The column about making / saving money.
This is not a profession leveling column, but one that is about money, and profession leveling is only a topic WITHIN moneymaking.
Get it now?
Powerleveling just means you dont want to go out farming, you are a max level character who needs a certain profession. It does not mean it has to cost a lot of money, nor that you want to do it in two ours. Clever might mean you take enchanting, might not, decide based on your circumstances.
Gothia May 11th 2010 5:12AM
No, I don't get it as I said being self sufficient makes much more sense that trying to tell people that they will save gold when powerleveling. Plan on spending thousands of gold or level up normally. Plan out a shopping list of materials needed to level to max skill. Plan on the most cost effective way to dispose of leveled crafted goods. Notice that planning is more important? This guide is bullshit and I could careless what a fanboi thinks.
csjenova May 11th 2010 12:33PM
So the information in this post is useless for the planning portion? You yourself say that planning out the process is highly important, so the information in this guide is helpful for planning that out correct? True, it is helpful to have an enchanter on your account, but not all do. Wow.com doesn't cater solely to the highest tier raider that has every profession covered on their account and their main simply switches to BiS profs as is needed...it also caters to the first time characters that may be interested in leveling their 1 mains second profession to something more useful for raiding than skinning...
You yourself admit that planning is a big part of power leveling cost efficiently. That doesn't mean finding and enchanter to DE your products isn't part of that planning. Get over yourself. This column was not useful for me personally, but that doesn't make its contents null and void for everyone.
Neyssa May 11th 2010 4:05AM
I am just leveling my boyfriend's inscription and engineering.
Thanks to you, I downloaded lil'sparky and it really saves so much time! Thats what I used to do, go check in AH how much it goes for, but now I can stand on the trainer, level the profession, and sometimes run to Gbank for some refill :)
I am farming on my computer with my characters, and leveling the prof. on his. I leveled Inscription to more than 200 with no cost (and already made about 50g :), and farming was an ease.
I do have a trust in my newly discovered glyph, the Penguin :)
If anyone knows a good site with the collection of BiS glyphs for each spec, I would highly appreciate it! Right now I am only making the ones I know I use (on my lock, DK, druid, and on my boyfriends warrior, paladin).
Matt J May 11th 2010 12:01PM
www.wowpopular.com will list the most popular talent build and glyphs for each class/spec
(really hope this reply goes to the correct place)
Neyssa May 12th 2010 1:56AM
Thank you Matt, its perfect, exactly what i was looking for!
Drop by at Ragnaros EU for some free glyphs ;)
sherekhan88 May 11th 2010 5:01AM
I'm preparing to massively farm all ores (prolly from Mithril upwards, since the lowbie ores aren't TOO outrageous. Well, last time I checked anyway >_>) for my DK alt, who is BS/JC. Can anyone recommend an addon that would allow me to make a big shopping list viewable by both toons? I have Advanced Tradeskill Window, but it doesn't let me forecast new materials, only for recipes I already have.
Gothia May 11th 2010 8:38AM
In-game mail?
Farming is not powerleveling and is the most traditional way to level a profession. Btw, you failed to mention what profession you are leveling. I assume that since you have a BS / JC alt it would be Engineering and maybe Mining.
While the assumption for powerleveling should be that you have your finances in order, but I do agree that your success is based on the amount of planning you put into building this profession. That is the true saver.
sherekhan88 May 11th 2010 11:15AM
Actually it seem it's obvious that I'm powerlevelling BS/JC on my DK alt, as is stated, using my Hunter who already has maxed out Mining/Engineering. Now re-read that and reply properly.
Scinter May 11th 2010 5:58AM
When I powerlevel professions I look at the most popular guides, and avoid any craft they mention, seriously, those are going to be the items that flood the AH. Have a pocket enchanter, and go for it. Most crafts have some hidden gems at low level that are profitable. Engineering has yetis that are orange for 40 skillups, and are profitable to make. You can level alchemy with only peacebloom, fish, and transmutes up to 300. Low level JC has the first available rings/necks. Tailoring has some BiS twink items, and some profitable DE options. Inscription has minor gliphs very early. Don't discount all those low level items in you skillbook, and invest in your profession.
Neyssa May 11th 2010 8:00AM
I just leveled Alchemy a month ago, how do you do it only from fish and transmute? I am really interested :)
Blackmouth oil turns gray at 100, fire oil 130-170, stonescale oil 250-260. The first transmute is on 225.
micktha May 11th 2010 9:37AM
@Scinter
What bad, bad advice re alchemy. Having levelled 5 alchemists to max, only occasionally have I used fish do the incredibly low supply on the AH compared to herbs.
And the low level transmutes are on the 24hr cooldown right?
Scinter May 12th 2010 6:13AM
'can be done' is very different that 'should be done'. I am just encouraging people to think outside the box a little. I did all the checking on that and yes it is possible, just not an efficient use of time.
Scinter May 12th 2010 6:34AM
also forgot to add there is no CD on transmute arcanite anymore, and that baby is a moneymaker on my realm at least.
Bluriel May 11th 2010 10:45AM
Tip for scribes:
On my server ANY tier of armor or weapon vellum sells like hot bread! Try crafting that until it's grayed out and sell on AH. Lots of people are leveling their alts - seems it happens every end of expansion :)
Also - do NOT forget your daily research. Some minors sell incredibly well. Check AH for prices when you have discovered a new one.
And while you're at it, keep an eye out for Books of Glyph Mastery - prices are ridiculously low sometimes, depending on luck. And you will be needing a load of them at ... 425 was it? skill.
Matt J May 11th 2010 12:12PM
Congratulations your snarky response has just removed any desire whatsoever to try to look for the information you requested.
And for the record your inital post wasn't as clear as you thought you did. True if you remove the text in the parenthesis it is fairly clear what you were saying, however the parenthesis was horribly constructed. There is a sentance fragment, ended by a period, then you start a fragment, all this for a parenthesis which resides within the middle of a sentance. Either way l2grammer before being an ass to someone who couldn't decipher what you were trying to say.
And no, I don't care that you're probably going to flame me as well for not helping your search for info.
(crosses fingers and hopes this reply gets attached to the correct comment)
Matt J May 11th 2010 12:13PM
Damn, I hate this comment system, that was supposed to be attached to the thread a few comments up initiated by "sherekhan88"