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5-14-2010 @ 6:03PM
"Since we know there won't be any double dipping into other masteries, you won't see weird arms/fury hybrid specs trying to get the first two bonuses from each tree, thus making it fairly safe for both arms and fury to have the exact same mastery bonus as their first-tier benefit."Erm, except that it is the same constant. So if you could combine them then 30 pts in one and 21 pts in the other would result in the same benefit as 51 points in either. So it is still fairly safe. That's what I hate about this. The bonuses are all quite safe because they are a constant increase based on talent points and not the mastery stat. As long as the third one isn't shared and goes by what has the most so that the mastery stat knows what to buff, I see no problem in having an arms/fury warrior receive bonuses from each tree.I understand this is supposed to be something that keeps balance between pure and hybrid classes, but honestly I don't see the point. Even without masteries, there isn't really any hybrid tree builds out there except for PvP purposes and hybrid classes will not want to mix things up too much because their tree defines their role and not just play-style. How is weakening yourself by not getting the most out of your tree being the same as OP with mastery? A little arp for the fury warrior is nice, but haste probably trumps it anyways and vice versa.Right now, some trees are built around the idea the better players will branch into other trees. See Deep Wounds, or for magi: Torment of the Weak. Both result in lots of wasted talents because they don't benefit your chosen build and you are simply trying to get to something that more than makes up for the waste. As they shed this ideal, I can't help but feel the person with all their talent points in one tree may no longer be the noob as then not only do you get all the best talents, but the mediocre + mastery could be better than branching into a different tree without mastery.Bah. We still simply don't have enough information to judge. /rant
5-14-2010 @ 6:27PM
You only get the mastery bonus from the tree in which you have the most points. Going 30/21 would only yield you a 30-point mastery. You can still go hybrid, but its utility drops heavily with the mastery system.
5-15-2010 @ 5:42AM
"As they shed this ideal, I can't help but feel the person with all their talent points in one tree may no longer be the noob as then not only do you get all the best talents, but the mediocre + mastery could be better than branching into a different tree without mastery."You have to remember that Mastery points cap at 51, so there is no advantage there to sinking all points into one tree. Where Mastery is concerned, it's still likely we'll be better served going something like 51/25/0 or 51/15/10 or whatever. You are right in that we can't say without seeing the new talent tree landscape, however.http://www.wow.com/2010/05/13/cataclysm-leak-mastery-formulas/
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