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by Matthew Rossi 
May 27th 2010 at 1:00PM
Ghostcrawler - Re: Cataclysm Fury RotationThat leaves Fury with Bloodthirst and Slam and Heroic Strike. Heroic Strike will play more of a role since it will require a GCD, but you also may not want to push it every time in low rage scenarios. So we do think Fury will need one more rotational button. The one we are messing with right now is Victory Rush. It feels pretty cool so far, but a lot of things will change with classes over the next several weeks. Not sure yet whether it works better as a proc (like Sudden Death) or something available all the time.
I'd personally like to see Victory Rush become a proc like Sudden Death or Bloodsurge Slams: in fact, it wouldn't be hard to simply add VR to both of those abilities, letting it proc either instead of or at the same time as a Sudden Death Execute or Bloodsurge Slam. You'd need to leave it enough time to not end up wasted a lot, but there's potential there.
Ghostcrawler also makes a good point about glyphs and Cataclysm (if you think an ability isn't good because of a glyph or too good because of one, don't assume that glyph will still exist or be in the same form in the future) and again emphasizes the problem with Whirlwind style abilities. While it's good to see them thinking about this, we need more details: how is Bloodsurge going to be affected by losing Heroic Strike spam, for just one concern? Still, I'm hopeful they'll work out the new rotation fairly soon.
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 3)
whalt May 27th 2010 2:39PM
Everyone commenting at Mythik realizes he was trolling right? And that by flaming insanely at his comment you're just ensuring that he or someone like him will make the same post again. As a ret pally main I will agree we've been hit with a lot of nerfs since wrath's launch, but going on about it like some have in these comments just makes everyone think Mythik's comment about Paladins being "flower picking fancylads" is right.
Persephanie May 27th 2010 3:12PM
How do you link the blue posts like that? I try to post blue's on my page but it always winds up being a copy pasted version and doesn't look professional.
GrumblyStuff May 27th 2010 3:30PM
Victory Rush does seem like the obvious ability to change since it gets used oh so rarely. I wouldn't even mind if it was changed to something completely different. I mean, the name does lend itself awfully well to a Slice and Dice clone....
If not for Inner Rage (when you hit max rage, abilities cost 50% more rage for 15% more damage), I'd suggest Victory Rush to light up at max rage and costs a wee bit instead of being free. Add a low level talent to make it free when you score a killing blow.
I'd still like some changes to Execute and Slam and their associated proc talents. After SD arrived and execute and it's proc version got nerfs, it just hasn't felt worthwhile to use in place of regular moves. Execute certainly doesn't live up to its name.
As for slam and bloodsurge, maybe the move from infinite rage will help make it better and change to heroic strike (and probably cleave) will help make it more enticing. In its current form, I probably use only half of the procs and the other half I simply am babysitting HS and my rage bar until BT is off cooldown. I know HS is off GCD but it always seems like BS procs when I HS and have BT and WW available (which I hit instinctively).
Anyway, here's hoping for a cooldown based execute and sudden death as well as a proc'd VR melee haste selfbuff!
Jonisjalopy May 27th 2010 5:06PM
I always liked the idea of whilwind on a single target. I felt that, as a blood-crazed ball of steel and ire, I would try to hit whatever I was attacking with both weapons and screw the consequence. If I happened to hit others around me, so be it. I mean, i'm swinging two axes bigger than myself most of the time. Hell, i'm lucky I don't take my own arm off with every other swing :D
clundgren May 27th 2010 5:09PM
I've only played fury at low levels, but my prot warrior alt would get a fury spec damned quick if they make fury the full on "barbarian" class for Cata. What I really want to see? An option for fury warriors to make *all* item slots invisible, not just helm and cape. And fury warrior undies should look like they are made from animal pelts. That way I could run around in my undies like Conan and still kick ass. That would be awesome.
clundgren May 27th 2010 5:14PM
My prot warrior alt would go fury pretty quickly if:
A) fury warriors could make ALL their gear invisible, not just cape and helm.
B) fury warrior underwear looked like it was made from animal pelts.
That way he could run around kicking ass like Conan! That's what I want for Cataclysm.
clundgren May 27th 2010 5:16PM
Sorry about the double post...the first one didn't appear for a long time, so I thought it went into the ether like so many others. Sigh.
Mayhew May 27th 2010 5:40PM
Yeah, I got burned by that today, too. Posts seem to be taking awhile to show up, this afternoon.
Balgus May 27th 2010 6:53PM
know what i would like on a fury warrior? some way to give the tanks my threat.
Joester May 29th 2010 2:17PM
First off, after reading everyone's comments, warriors are not hybrids IMO. Protection can't dps and fury or arms can Not tank. 1h/shield? Big deal. You'll have to 1. Create a complex macro or 2 find them in your bags. Even if and when you make that complex macro. It dosntwork half the time. It will equip u only with either or wep.Or if you four them in Your bags, probably half your raid or party is dead cause u lost aggro from stance dance lag. Gfg.
Lets also talk about nerfs. Warriors owned vanilla. We also got the nerf bat every patch.
Return pallys got buffed BC. Warriors got more nerfs.
If anything, feral druids needs more nerfs. Their pure hybrid. Tank, heal, dps..wt....
Also, adding VR like a slam like proc is lame. I left arma because all those random process I had to keep up with like a whack a like mole rotation