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5-27-2010 @ 1:25PM
Once we reach level 81, assuming current talent trees largely remain unchanged, Sweeping Strike becomes available to Fury build. So I guess I don't quite mind the idea of shifting Whirlwind to AoE only.But my impression is, still, Blizz people are AFRAID of making warrior too powerful. So much so, they now have nerfed the signature fury ability, Whirlwind, into nearly useless in boss fights. (venting cont.) Why don't they just remove all yellow attacks from fury warriors, leaving us with white ones only?
5-27-2010 @ 1:35PM
Okay, relax. I understand that you're upset at 'losing' WW, but we simply don't know enough to throw our toys all over the place. :) With Rage normalised PROPERLY, there's no reason why Fury warriors won't get some nice moves and be balanced nicely. Yellow attacks come from pushing buttons.. that's normally fun.. And while 8 WW crits was always pretty, single-target WW has always lacked potential and felt funny, perhaps?Hopefully the NDA will be lifted soon so we can get a clue as to what's going on.
5-27-2010 @ 1:43PM
Sorry I don't have the same confidence.For the past TWO years, the goal of tuning warrior dps builds has been balancing the class with others, at least IMO. The end result is indeed balanced dps output. But what we also get is an awkward dps class that's quite often dull to play.All of this nerfing trend is going to change in 4.0? They need to show me that in 3.3.6 first.
5-27-2010 @ 2:02PM
Fury does NOT have balanced dps output. You currently rival rogues for melee dps, and are way ahead of DKs (all builds), arms warriors, and ret paladins. Fury warriors are overpowered by comparison to other plate melee classes.Frankly, I find the warrior QQ about whirlwind hard to take. Ret paladins are facing *exactly* the same nerf to Divine Storm, which plays *exactly* the same role in our rotation, and I haven't heard 1/10th the whining. And we are well behind you on the dps meters to start with.
5-27-2010 @ 2:35PM
Clundgren, you're either a liar or misinformed.http://www.wow.com/2010/05/06/icc-dps-analysis-by-specRet and fury are almost identical across the board on average and on specific fights like Rotface/Festergut. In some cases, ret is ahead of fury. In others, fury beats ret.
5-27-2010 @ 3:39PM
Wow...a liar? That's a bit harsh. See my reply to your second post, but let me point out that there are multiple sites that track dps performance according to different criteria.
5-27-2010 @ 5:24PM
Further: the data you link to includes all players of all skill levels. The problem with that is fury warriors get much better as their gear improves. I think the wow meters online data is a much better indication of how classes stack up once you normalize gear and skill. That data shows fury warriors to be ahead of ret paladins in *every* fight, and one of the top dps classes overall.I take strong exception to your "liar" comment.
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