The Care and Feeding of Warriors: A new fury at 80

The Care and Feeding of Warriors takes this week to look at what your newly 80 fury warrior should be doing. Matthew Rossi hit 80 back before you could pick up iLevel 232 gear by running heroics. Heck, it didn't even exist in game yet. Get off his lawn.
Before we get started I'll point you at the Fury 101 post we did a while back. Since reinventing the wheel isn't what we're out to do, this post will be more definitely aimed at what to do when you reach 80 -- in other words, where to get the best gear you can as quickly as you can.
Heroics, heroics, heroics: the emblems are OK
First off, if you haven't been running the daily LFD dungeon at least once a day while leveling to 80, I'm sorry to hear that. If you have, however, you'll have picked up some triumph badges that you can spend right away. Assuming that you have already maxed out the Precision talent, you only need 163 hit rating or 5% hit to hit a raid boss with yellow attacks, which is more than you need for bosses in heroic 5-mans at 80. So aim to get that hit to that level and then don't worry about it anymore. Likewise, you only need 26 expertise (214 expertise rating) to completely negate dodges from raid bosses, which is again more than you need for 5-mans. Don't worry too much about these stats while gearing up for and in heroic dungeons.
The Faceplate/Helm of Thunderous Rampage is one of the best purchases for Emblems of Triumph for a fury warrior. While this is a fairly expensive purchase, it's not like you won't eventually scrape up the emblems and you won't have to replace this hat until you have enough frosts to buy the T10 hat; even the plate DPS drop from 10-man Deathwhisper isn't as good for a fury warrior. The Pauldrons/Shoulderplates of Trembling Rage are cheaper at 45 emblems and will take a big chunk out of that hit target you're looking for. However, if you're intending to go for four pieces of the T9 232 set for the bonuses, I'd rather skip these and buy the hat. (The Hellscream and its Alliance counterpart will provide quite a bit of hit and expertise, making the hit on the Trembling Rage shoulders less attractive.)
If you're looking for rings and trinkets from Emblems of Triumph, there's only one real trinket option for the fresh 80 DPS warrior, the Mark of Supremacy, and it's not terribly compelling. Still, for a new 80, the on-use is solid enough and if you're woefully short on hit, the trinket will get you half of the way towards the 262 hit rating to cap yellows in raids without Precision. (This doesn't mean don't take Precision.) I'd make the trinket a low priority, but if you have nothing better and have collected most of what you want from triumphs, it is an option. For rings, you can get the Bloodshed Band and the Dextrous Brightstone Ring. Until Cataclysm comes along and takes the AP off of agility-based items, I'd get the Dextrous first; even with haste on it, the spread of stats and ArP makes it more attractive. But the Bloodshed's got a solid amount of strength and crit, so while you may start to feel overloaded on hit once you pick it up, it's worth looking at. For your ranged weapon stat stick, Crimson Star is pretty solid. (You won't find many ranged weapons with strength on them.)
Don't spend triumphs on PvP gear unless you have all the PvE gear you want from the triumph vendor and are swimming in triumphs. With VoA, Wintergrasp and random BGs, it's pretty easy to get plenty of honor to buy PvP gear without spending your emblems. Likewise, don't dump triumphs down to buy gear from the conquest/valor emblem vendors unless you have everything you want from the triumph vendor; even then, I'd counsel waiting for a drop from one of the ICC 5-mans or Trial of the Champion. Failing that, use your triumphs (and frozen orbs) to buy mats for superior crafted items.
Speaking of heroics, there's gear in them, too
It's true! They're not just there for ramming through them as quickly as you can for emblems! In addition to heroics, there are epics that drop in normal mode dungeons as well. Don't be afraid to run these instances. (Please don't snag tanking plate from real tanks.) While I just filtered for plate, there are capes, rings (for whatever stats you need) and trinkets available from instances that you shouldn't turn your nose up at -- and even more importantly, weapons.
For a fury warrior, polearms and staves are right out; don't even look at them. That leaves you with the Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver, Edge of Ruin, Tyrannical Beheader, Garfrost's Two-Ton Hammer and Mourning Malice. If you get very lucky while running the heroic Icecrown Citadel 5-mans or have a lot of gold saved up, you can also buy a Battered Hilt and choose between one of two Quel'Delar options. The ArP Quel'Delar makes a nice off hand for a fury warrior, but the strength one is a solid main hand and will be even better come Cataclysm.
BoE/crafting options
Keep in mind that most crafted items are either going to be expensive in terms of mats or easily replaced. The items that were staples of the Naxxramas raider (Titansteel Destroyer, Spiked Titansteel Helm and Treads) can still serve if you have the mats to craft them or money to buy them and want to throw them on as soon as you hit 80. There are also four notable BoE instance drops a fury warrior might make use of, the Raging Behemoth's Shoulderplates (they drop in ICC-25 but can be found on most realm's AH by now), the Iron Riveted War Helm, Iron Spring Jumpers and Zeliek's Gauntlets. The jumpers and gauntlets drop off of Naxx bosses who are very infrequently killed nowadays, making them a rare sight on the AH, but the Iron Riveted War Helm drops from a boss who is killed for a weekly raid quest, making it slightly more common.
There are quite a few crafted plate DPS pieces ranging from Ulduar to ICC quality. The Battlelord's Plate Boots and Belt of the Titans are solid iLevel 226 crafted items from Ulduar recipes; the Titanium Razorplate (Alliance) and Titanium Spikeguards (Horde) are Trial of the Crusader recipes; and the Ashen Verdict quartermaster sells the recipes for the Legplates of Painful Death and Hellfrozen Bonegrinders if you're swimming in money or mats.
Of course I have forgotten or left out something, which is where the comments often come in handy. I deliberately left out reputation faction rewards, since fresh 80s can often get good gear faster by just running heroics, as an example, but we did cover them almost two years ago and they haven't really changed all that much since.
Next week, 21-40 as a warrior; then in two weeks, what's a newly 80 prot to do?
Filed under: Warrior, Analysis / Opinion, (Warrior) The Care and Feeding of Warriors






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
hipponaut May 28th 2010 1:28PM
Does agility really give AP to warriors? I thought it didn't.
Debesun May 28th 2010 1:55PM
Think he's referring to items with agility as a stat have a seperate allocation of AP on them.
Aedilhild May 28th 2010 2:03PM
Agility gives plate DPS critical strike chance; often, AGI/AP pieces prove best-in-slot. It's why many warriors and retribution paladins choose, to offer one notable example, the Ashen Band of Vengeance over the Ashen Band of Might.
Michael May 28th 2010 1:36PM
God that is an ugly character.
Jamie May 28th 2010 2:00PM
Welcome to 3.0.2.
Jamie May 28th 2010 1:44PM
"Matthew Rossi hit 80 back before you could pick up iLevel 232 gear by running heroics. Heck, it didn't even exist in game yet. Get off his lawn."
Next week in a change to planned programming, Mr. Rossi will show you how Wirt's Third Leg CAN help maintain balance while crossing the road and how the
Axe of the Gronn Lords will help remove unwanted teenage loiterers from your local convenience store.
Wump May 28th 2010 2:29PM
also, his bunny likes the grass, so GTFO!
clundgren May 28th 2010 1:52PM
For trinkets I would add that Darkmoon Card: Greatness is still one of the best items you'll get until you start some serious raiding (and even then, it holds up pretty well), and there's almost always a few available on the AH for 3-5k. This is a good chunk of change, but worth it. Also, the Needle Encrusted Scorpion that drops off Devourer of Souls in Heroic Forge of Souls is really good for warriors.
thebitterfig May 28th 2010 2:12PM
The Scorpion is in the article, but under the drops section, rather than the emblems one.
I should also point out the Mirror of Truth ( http://www.wowhead.com/item=40684 ), 40 emblems traded down to Heroism. If you don't need the hit from the Mark, it's... reasonable. Better than blue-quality trinkets, and if you're having problems getting both Scorpion and Banner, and don't have the cash to spend on a Darkmoon Card (wonderful as it is), it'll get the job done.
That said, I'd agree with Rossi for the most part, and put it pretty low on the priority list. For me, the list would go: tier + offset helm > triumph rings > conquest amulet > valor cape > trinket > orbs for crafted stuff.
jason.reagan May 28th 2010 2:17PM
"there's only one real trinket option for the fresh 80 DPS warrior, the Mark of Supremacy, and it's not terribly compelling."
What about http://www.wowhead.com/item=40684 ?
Last time i checked that was still a pretty powerful trinket above the blues/greens and will last you till you can get a raid drop
clundgren May 28th 2010 2:41PM
It looks good but seems to have a very low proc rate. But you're right, it's a decent choice until you get lucky with a drop or can afford a darkmoon card.
Matthew Rossi May 28th 2010 3:25PM
The problem with the Mirror is trading down emblems to get it, but yes, it's often a better option. If you can't get Greatness (and really, Greatness is the best trinket option for a new 80, I have no idea what my brain was doing not listing it) it's better than nothing, but frankly I'd just settle for a Meterorite Whetstone from heroic UP until I could get the NeS.
jason.reagan May 28th 2010 3:29PM
10% proc rate with as many attacks that you do, means that it is only limited by its ICD
iceveiled May 28th 2010 3:18PM
Mirror of Truth is also a great option for an emblem trinket if you're not having any luck getting the needle-encrusted scorpion to drop, or if the hit on the mark of supremacy is wasted on you and you'd rather spend the emblems elsewhere.
EDIT: somebody above me already mentioned it, so count this as another vote for the mirror of truth.
iceveiled May 28th 2010 3:24PM
Also if you want a nice stat-stick for a ranged weapon and don't have the emblems to buy the crimson star, doing the Argent tournament for a few days can net you the http://www.wowhead.com/item=45210 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=45130
Not the greatest stats for a warrior, but likely better than what you had when you dinged 80.
mackejn May 28th 2010 4:17PM
So what about the battlemaster trinket that is 138 crit rating for fury?
busuan May 28th 2010 5:01PM
(Promoting PvP gears) Neck and Trinkets:
For 34100 points/each, you can get iLvl245 gears:
Battlemaster's Rage, +256AP
Battlemaster's Fury, +128crit
For 52200 points, you can get iLvl264 item:
Wrathful Gladiator's Pendant of Sundering, +60ArP(!), +181AP,
They drop from VoA bosses too, but only if you are very lucky.
They requires a different currency so that you can spend emblems on other items.
They don't have procs, but the resilience and stamina stats are somewhat helpful; if you die too fast, your dps is not just low, it's Zero-low.
Undra May 28th 2010 5:57PM
I spent a week as Fury after I hit 80 and found it among the most painful experiences I've had in my many years of WoW. It's my opinion that Fury has a minimum gear requirement to function and I ran back to Arms crying and comforted in immediately doing double the damage I was struggling to produce as Fury.
I'm sure once you acquire the levels of gear mentioned in this article, Fury leaps ahead and devours mobs whole. But as a fresh 80 warrior, I'm staying clear of the middle spec until then.
Grak Jun 1st 2010 7:13AM
Agreed. I've just hit 80 on my new warrior alt, and leveling as Fury and running heroics as Fury to get emblems for a starter tanking set was incredibly painful. The spec is supposed to be "screaming barbarian in woad"? well nobody tells you that you actually will get to scream once then sit around for a minute auto-attacking praying for your red bar to fill up enough so you can get to use another attack. Rage starvation was beyond a joke, and dps levels was laughable. Soloing things wasnt *too* bad as I got some rage coming in from being damaged.. but in 5mans, it was mostly all auto-attacks. I thought it was because of being in leveling greens (though I had 5 heirlooms including x2 arcanite reapers) but after getting a set of iLvl 200's from heroics things still hadnt improved much. Even with enchants to get to hit and expertise cap.
Respec to Arms and suddenly I can actually play and do things, and watch some decent (for a fresh level 80) damage numbers come up. Rage comes in more evenly and no longer do I have to make a decision between refreshing Battle Shout or getting to use a special attack.
I loved the idea of Fury, but was incredibly disappointed to discover you just cant use it until you're in the current raid tier :(
Byronius May 28th 2010 6:41PM
Don't forget Ring of Rotting Sinew http://www.wowhead.com/item=50453
or even Wodin's Lucky Necklace http://www.wowhead.com/item=50452
Hot BoE pieces out of ICC if you have the money for them and need a ring and/or neck.