The Light and How to Swing It: Gearing a new level 80 tankadin, part 3

First up, I'm looking for action screenshots of retribution and protection paladins. They can be any level between 1 and 80. I'll be using these for header graphics like the one above. Please send those as well as any other comments to my email at gregg@wow.com.
Secondly, this is it. We're almost done. We're finishing our final installment of how to gear your new level 80 protection paladin. If you've been reading our previous weeks of this guide, you know that we talked over reputation and profession gear as well as all of the various dungeon gear you can nab. This week we're going to be taking advantage of all of that dungeon running and spending our badges with a look at all of the badges from Frost to Heroism (and yes there are exactly 7 useful items that you can trade Emblems of Triumph down to Emblems of Heroism for ... and 6 of them are epic gems).
Emblem of Frost - These are the highest item level items you can get without stepping foot into a raid. They're also a higher item level than the entry level tier 10 gear. If you're not planning on jumping into any raids before the coming expansion hits, then you're better off with the chest and hand pieces from here as they're higher item level than the entry tier 10 gear and you'll get more bang for your badge. The trinket has enough stamina that it makes tanks drool in addition to the on use absorb it can do. The frost level libram has about 10%-ish more dodge than triumph version.
- Libram of the Eternal Tower (30)
- Sentinel's Winter Cloak (50)
- Cataclysmic Chestguard (95)
- Gauntlets of the Kraken (60)
- Verdigris Chain Belt (60)
- Corroded Skeleton Key (60)
- Lightsworn Shoulderguards (60)
- Lightsworn Legguards (95)
- Lightsworn Faceguard (95)
- Lightsworn Handguards (60)
- Lightsworn Chestguard (95)
- Libram of Defiance (25)
- Headplate of the Honorbound (75)
- Shoulderguards of Enduring Order (45)
- Clutch of Fortification (35)
- Glyph of Indomitability (50)
Triumph Tier-9 Set - This is the same deal as the tier 10 set above. These items are slightly lower item level than the other plate items you can buy with triumph badges. The upside is you can get upgrades for them. At this point in the game, worrying about getting that upgrade token for these Tier items isn't worth it as you can get better gear in the ICC 5-man dungeons. However, it's essentially a full set of plate for 210 Emblems of Triumph. Oh, and it comes in Horde and Alliance flavors.
Emblem of Conquest - There really isn't much reason to trade down to conquest badge items. The two things you might want to nab are the necklace and the belt. Otherwise, stick to triumph and frost items.
- Breastplate of the Wayward Conqueror (58)
- Crown of the Wayward Conqueror (58)
- Libram of the Sacred Shield (19)
- Shard of the Crystal Forest (19)
- Shieldwarder Girdle (28)
- Gauntlets of the Royal Watch (28)
- Wyrmguard Legplates (39)
- Legplates of the Lost Conqueror (75)
- Mantle of the Lost Conqueror (60)
- Libram of Resurgence (25)
- Platinum Mesh Cloak (25)
- Kyzoc's Ground Stompers (40)
- Bracers of Dalaran's Parapets (60)
- Signet of the Impregnable Fortress (25)
- Chestguard of the Lost Conqueror (80)
- Gloves of the Lost Conqueror (60)
- Libram of Obstruction (15)
- Chained Military Gorget (25)
- Waistguard of Living Iron (40)
- Crygil's Discarded Plate Panel (35)
- Valor Medal of the First War (40)
- Epic Gems
- Majestic Zircon (20)
- Cardinal Ruby (20)
- King's Amber (20)
- Dreadstone (10)
- Eye of Zul (10)
- Ametrine (10)
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
nekorion Jun 2nd 2010 11:39PM
why hello epic gems. You're what I buy every few days with my leftover triumphs. I love you!
Angus Jun 3rd 2010 7:25AM
Yea. Come what else are you going to buy when your ret-set is all 232+ and you have 1000 triumphs? I trade to heroic badges on batches of 100 every couple of weeks now.
Being a tank everyone wants to run randoms with doe occassionally have it's advantages...
Krick Jun 3rd 2010 12:11AM
I have a gear guide and some sample gear sets on my website...
http://www.tankadin.com/forum/index.php?topic=1168.0
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Krick
http://www.tankadin.com
zdave Jun 3rd 2010 12:30AM
i'm not a big fan of leaving stuff up to the RNG gods, so i like the conquest libram over the triumph. constant 450 block rating? yes please. maybe the dodge rating is better for raids, but i mainly stick to heroics for now.
or maybe i'm wrong! tell me why random "burst" dodging is better than constant block rating.
r.furrer91 Jun 3rd 2010 10:20AM
Actually, the dodge proc, Evasion, from the Triumph Libram procs just about any time I use Hammer of the Righteous. And even if it doesn't proc that one time, I've still got plenty of time left from the previous proc (I believe it goes for 20 seconds) that it'll overlap. Overall, I say the Triumph Libram is the way to go.
thebitterfig Jun 3rd 2010 1:41AM
thing is, it isn't block rating, which helps you block more frequently, but block value, which helps you have bigger blocks when you do block. To that end, I don't really like the libram of the sacred shield. with blocking in general, either a hit is large enough to make blocking it basically irrelevant, or else the hits tend to be weak enough that blocking the little bit they deal also won't be worth it.
it's probably an awesome libram for soloing old world content before cata, where blocks can trivialize the weak hits, but i'd still prefer dodge for heroics, unless really gearing for block.
Grak Jun 3rd 2010 6:12AM
If you want threat in heroics (and if you're in the triumph emblem gear then threat is going to be far more useful than some extra avoidance) then use the 245 strength libram, as +200 strength is far better than some extra block. The only time to use the block libram is when you are running through trash and using Seal of Command (because the 245 strenght libram only procs off Seal of Corruption). For progression content, such as raids and possibly heroic Halls of Reflection (if your healer is undergeared) then the 245 dodge libram is the way to go.
I have all 3 librams and have them macro'd to equip when I use the appropriate seal. I also have the 226 divine storm libram to use when while Ret and running Seal of Command.
Celeane Jun 3rd 2010 7:24AM
All excellent points. Librams are one of those key slots where you think about what you want instead of just going higher ilevel.
r.furrer91 Jun 3rd 2010 11:06AM
The only reason I would get the Frost Libram is for gearscore, because we all know that's what the game is about these days. However, I'm not going to give up something I prefer for gearscore. Especially because the difference is not that big between the Triumph Libram and the Frost one. However, my first purchase with my Frost badges is going to be the trinket because I'm still using The Black Heart from regular ToC (which I love) and Essence of Gossamer, because obviously that's a HUGE upgrade from the Essence.
My armory link: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&cn=Prot%C3%A9go
Gormaggus Jun 3rd 2010 11:49PM
As others have mentioned before me, the triumph libram gives you a constant 200 dodge rating as it will proc every time you use HotR, and it is thus far superior to the conquest libram. The Frost libram is an EXTREMELY marginal upgrade to the triumph libram, and is situationally worse as if your stack drops off it'll take you three rotations as opposed to one to get the buff back to beating the triumph libram - thus it is generally recommended to get everything you can with frost badges before picking up the Libram of the Eternal Tower (even your ret offset).
Hal Jun 3rd 2010 7:07AM
For frost badges, I'd actually recommend the Belt and Cloak first. Primarily because these will be the biggest upgrades if you haven't been raiding previously. You're likely sporting gear that is still Ulduar-level, while the Chest and Gloves have ToC equivalents you can pick up.
Christopher Schmidt Jun 3rd 2010 7:51AM
The 264 chest and gloves do not have ToC equivalents unless your doing Heroic ToC
Hal Jun 3rd 2010 7:57AM
I was talking more about badge gear.
You can craft an iLvl 245 chest, or get the tier set for ILvl 232 chest and gloves, all of which are ToC-level gear.
For the cloak, the highest non-raid gear you can get is the Valor badge cloak (iLvl 213) or the cloak from normal HoR (iLvl 219). For the belt, you can get a crafted belt or a badge belt, both of which are Ulduar-equivalent (iLvl 226).
So, if you're not raiding, then the frost badge cloak and belt are probably your biggest upgrades, since you're stepping up at least two raiding tiers with both upgrades.
Christopher Schmidt Jun 3rd 2010 8:01AM
OH! I understand now. =( I thought you were saying the frost badge off tier gloves and chest had toc level equivalents. I Just had to read that over again. I get you now.
Ohm Jun 3rd 2010 9:10AM
I just want to mention that the bracers from Emblems of Valor are BOE. So if you have an 80 with leftover badges (not being spent on epic gems) you could quickly upgrade the bracers. Until you can afford Saronite Swordbreakers.
feniks9174 Jun 3rd 2010 12:45PM
IMO, the 60 emblems it would cost to get the ilvl 213 bracers woul be better spent on Crusader Orbs for your Swordbreakers.
Nirva Jun 3rd 2010 9:25AM
"The frost level libram has about 10%-ish more dodge than triumph version."
19 dodge rating doesn't equate to 10% dodge, not sure what was actually meant here =S.
On the topic, if you're not MTing bosses or even raiding much then the Emblem of Triumph libram will probably suit you better then the Emblem of Frost one as there is no ramp-up time.
The Cataclysmic Chestguard from EoFs isn't as good for Paladins as it is for Warriors, stuff like Consecration, Holy Shield, Avenger's Shield isn't effected by Expertise. The armour however is great and if you're low on defense then it's a good choice. This however is unlikely and the Lightsworn Chestguard is most likely a better choice, also helping you achieve that 2-set bonus earlier which is a better for threat generation then the expertise anyway as you should have 16 expertise with no gear on from talents + Glyph of Vengeance.
csjenova Jun 3rd 2010 9:35AM
He meant 10% more dodge as in 200 dodge up to 219 dodge. 19 is almost 10% of 200.
Nirva Jun 3rd 2010 9:42AM
Thought about this a bit more and it's not clear it was meant to read "10%-ish more dodge rating".
Christopher Schmidt Jun 3rd 2010 9:53AM
"The Cataclysmic Chestguard from EoFs isn't as good for Paladins as it is for Warriors, stuff like Consecration, Holy Shield, Avenger's Shield isn't effected by Expertise."
Wrong.
Expertise is one of the best threat stats for all tanking classes (soft cap {"dodge cap", -6.5%} at 214 expertise rating [26 expertise]; it completely removes dodges from the attack table; hard cap {"parry cap", -14%} at 460 expertise rating [56 expertise]; it completely removes dodges and parries from the attack table) and the Frost emblem chest can almost soft cap a tank in expertise with just this piece of gear. It also has a massive amount of bonus armor. That extra armor (which equals about 100 extra stam for a paladin) = Effective Health which is king in ICC. This chest is better then the Paladin T10 for tanks doing only 10 man content, is considered BiS for melee heavy fights, and is only replaced by the Sanctified version in 25 man content.
All that bonus armor makes this an excellent piece for paladins (and all tanks), and the expertise actually sweetens the pot.