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6-10-2010 @ 11:09AM
Sub is... hrm... like all things sub, complicated. You have instant, MH-only strikes, and that favors a slower weapon, due to PPM mechanics, kind of like combat. Realistically, you'll want a dagger of 1.8 speed. You can use a standard, combat-style weapon, but that'll force you to switch weapons for shadow dance, and even at full HM LK type Best-in-slot weapons it'll only net around 100 dps more than just sticking with a slow dagger. You also want a fast weapon for as many DP procs as possible. No realistic HaT spec has both Lightning Reflexes, and Improved Poisons, so your DP application will be weak, meaning a fast DP weapon is vital.This has even lead to discussion where it might be better to follow a mutilate type practice, keep a fast dagger in the MH to increase DP applications (from the instant strikes), since there is actually a chance that a sub rogue's stack can fall off. If you follow that, you ought to just put the best weapon you can find in your offhand, regardless of speed, I'd imagine. You have no Focused Attacks or Combat Potency type talents to direct you either way.On the other hand, it has been suggested that using Shiv in a pinch to keep DP stacks up would be ideal, and since sub is an energy-pooling spec rather than an energy-burning one, it could be worked in as needed. In that case, you'd probably want to go back to a slow MH, fast OH setup, to reduce energy costs, improve hemo/ambush damage, and poison procs off of instant strikes. Alas, since sub is behind in damage, the eggheads who moved in to figure out if it was viable mostly moved out and didn't really finish the job of figuring out the best way to do it.As to sub's viability: it's like BM hunters or frost mages in terms of damage: semi-viable. Enough to be usable by someone who doesn't mind being down 5-10% in terms of spreadsheet damage - that is, behind by a level where the player will matter more than the theoretical difference. However, the difference is that sub is a harder spec to play relative to other rogue specs (BM is the easiest hunter spec by a hair, frost seems about even with arcane, and both arcane and frost are less complicated than fire). Additionally, Sub has lower utility than BM or frost, both of which provide buffs not provided elsewhere, where as sub just has higher TotT uptime. Whoopie! I love sub and the way that, unlike combat, finishers actually matter, but look forward to it being stronger at some point in the future.
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