The Light and How to Swing It: Gearing a new level 80 ret paladin

As I said last week, I'm looking for action screenshots of retribution and protection paladins. I've gotten a lot of good shots thus far and am always looking for more (especially you retribution paladins out there, as I got a ton of protection ones). They can be any level between 1 and 80. I'll be using these for header graphics like the one above. Please send those as well as any other comments to my email at gregg@wow.com.
If you've been following the column recently, you've seen the three-part series we did on gearing up a brand new level 80 protection paladin. We're going to take the same approach now to the retribution tree and work our way through the different types of items. First up, we've got craftables and reputation items. We'll be taking a look at stuff you'll be able to grab in dungeons next week and finish up the week after with a run-through of what all you can buy with the badges you got from all of that time in the random dungeon finder.
Strength, strength and more strength
As a DPS spec, retribution paladins don't have much they care about in the way of stats. Yeah, getting to the hit cap (8% or 263 hit rating) is fairly important and critical strike rating helps out as well. However, the stat we love more than anything else is strength. We love buckets of the stuff. If you've got a gem slot, your best choice of gem is almost always a Bold Cardinal Ruby. For every one point of strength you've got, it will give you two points of attack power. If you take the talent Divine Strength from the protection tree, that will increase it to 2.3 attack power from each point of strength.
It's generally difficult to find an item with attack power that matches up with one that features strength. So, in general (yes, I know there are exceptions), you'll want to avoid attack power gear in favor of strength-based armor. With things like cloaks, necklaces, rings and trinkets, you'll sometimes be able to find upgrades easier that are attack-power-based, as these are all generic items that any DPS class can use. However, for the most part, stick with strength plate and big, slow two-handed weapons.
When starting out, you'll probably see a lot of items that are upgrades to what you have but are tanking items and not meant for DPS. That's fine, because if no tanks are going to take the item, then go ahead and roll on it. However, since you're only grabbing those things for the upgrades to strength or the extra gem slots, please make sure of three things: 1.) no tanks are wanting to roll on it, 2.) you are going to actually use it, and 3.) it's worth losing any crit, hit or haste you have on current gear. If you meet all three of those (especially the first one), then go ahead and grab it. Besides, you could always put together a protection set for your second spec.
Craftables
Blacksmithing is the most obvious place to grab starter gear. The Savage Saronite set is available at 78, but it is a PvP set and if your goal is PvE, then you'll be wasting itemization on resilience that you won't use. For epic quality items in PvE, you'll want to start looking at the Spiked Titansteel Helm and Spiked Titansteel Treads. Another big item to grab is a weapon, and the Titansteel Destroyer is an excellent starter weapon until you get into some of the higher-end heroic dungeons. For a little pricier items on the auction house, you can check out Belt of the Titans and Battlelord's Plate Boots, which are both tier 8, Ulduar-level epics. On up the food chain are Titanium Spikeguards and Titanium Razorplate from Trial of the Crusader. Lastly, there are the Icecrown-Citadel-craftable epics of Hellfrozen Bonegrinders and Legplates of Painful Death.
Engineering has goggles for those of you who actually are engineers. Charged Titanium Specs are a profession-only epic headpiece that you can start wearing at 72 if you're the tinkering type. Also in the engineer-only vein is the Sonic Booster, which can offer a small attack power boost when it goes off, Hyperspeed Accelerators enchant for your gloves and Flexweave Underlay upgrade for your cloak. The accelerators boost your haste by a fairly obscene amount for 12 seconds and the cloak tinker gives a boost to agility, which ups your critical strike rating.
Inscription, of all things, provides one of the best retribution paladin trinkets that you can find inside or outside of a raid. It is so awesome that its name is just "Greatness." Well, in fact, its name is Darkmoon Card: Greatness. Not only does it start out with 90 strength, but when it procs, you get an additional 300 strength. You get this card by turning in a full deck of Nobles cards, ace through eight, at your local Darkmoon Faire. Just a warning: There are four varieties of this particular card and the strength version is just one of them. The other versions are spirit, intellect and agility, none of which we really need. So be sure you select the correct version.
Jewelcrafting has a couple of pieces that you might be interested in beyond strength gems when you hit 80. The tanking items of Titanium Earthguard Chain and Titanium Earthguard Ring both have a decent amount of strength in addition to a gem slot. The Titanium Impact Choker and the Titanium Impact Band are both more DPS-style items but have agility and attack power instead of strength. If you're a jewelcrafter yourself, the Emerald Boar might work out for a DPS trinket with two gem slots in it.
Alchemy in addition to its potions, elixirs and flasks has the Mighty Alchemist Stone, which is a crit and attack power trinket for alchemists only. It's a good addition to your arsenal, especially as you could have had it starting at level 75.
Reputation items
- Horde/Alliance The quartermasters in Northrend don't really have anything for ret paladins other than the PvP head enchant.
- Arcanum of the Savage Gladiator (Exalted)
- The Kalu'ak These are a bit lower level than you'll want to start with, but the polearm isn't that bad of a starter weapon compared to the normal dungeons and heroics. However, you'll quickly find upgrades in other places that will be much better.
- Whalebone Carapace (Honored)
- Whale-Stick Harpoon (Revered)
- Sons of Hodir There's some nice shoulders as well as enchants to put on them. The greater inscription is a bind on account item and can be transferred from another character if you have someone else already at exalted.
- Lesser Inscription of the Axe (Honored)
- Spaulders of the Giant Lords (Revered)
- Greater Inscription of the Axe (Exalted)
- Kirin Tor This group doesn't appear to enjoy people's wearing plate and hitting each other with big sticks. So, skip them for retribution gear unless you're just going for the reputation achievements.
- The Wyrmrest Accord They've got an OK tanking cloak for starting out if you just need something. The set of legs are actually pretty good for a set of starter gear, but you'll likely have better before you get up to exalted.
- Cloak of Peaceful Resolutions (Honored)
- Legplates of Bloody Reprisal (Exalted)
- Argent Crusade There are a couple of items from here you could get. There's a DPS cloak as well as a blue quality helmet and two-handed weapon.
- Cloak of Holy Extermination (Honored)
- Fang-Deflecting Faceguard (Revered)
- Argent Skeleton Crusher (Revered)
- Knights of the Ebon Blade Here are a set of epic boots, your primary head enchant and an OK level 80 starter weapon. Not bad for a single reputation. This should be the first one you work towards exalted.
- Runeblade of Demonstrable Power (Revered)
- Arcanum of Torment (Exalted)
- Death-Inured Sabatons (Exalted)
- Argent Tournament They have a cheap necklace for plate damage-dealers as well as a belt you can get once you've championed a faction. There is even a PvP trinket for sale, if you're going that route. For a few more emblems, you can also get an epic two-hander fairly easily.
- Horde
- Razor's Edge Pendant (10)
- Clinch of Savage Fury (10)
- Jouster's Fury (10)
- Greatsword of the Sin'dorei (25)
- Alliance
- Pendant of Azure Dreams (10)
- Girdle of Valorous Defeat (10)
- Jouster's Fury (10)
- Claymore of the Prophet (25)
- Horde
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Darias.Perenolde Jun 9th 2010 6:28PM
Oh sure NOW you make this post a week AFTER I shed my tanking spec for a little lolpallydps fun. I got a few more things in the way of craftables, but I'm also a packrat and had a bunch of titanium and a few gems and such laying around. :)
Pyromelter Jun 9th 2010 6:28PM
For weapons, most likely in chaining heroics you'll encounter one of these badboys:
Colossal Skull Clad Cleaver from Loken in HoL
Saliva Corroded Pike from Moragg in Violet Hold
Mojo Masked Crusher from Tharonja in Drak'Tharon
Hammer of Grief from Maiden of Grief in HoS
Sword of Justice from the Brann event in HoS
Edge of Oblivion from Jedoga in Ahn'Kahet (not likely on this one as very few pugs go to her anymore)
Also a tip for ret pallies: The #1 stat always and forever on any 2h weapon you get is Weapon DPS. If a weapon that drops has a higher DPS on it than the one you currently have, then you should roll need on it.
Pyromelter Jun 9th 2010 7:26PM
bleh, i didn't realize that "heroics" loot was gonna be next week. Assuming you didn't grind for the stuff that Gregg Mentioned, you should definitely at least get http://www.wowhead.com/quest=12948 which comes from the Ampitheater of Anguish in Zul'Drak. That weapon is more than good enough to carry into your first heroics, and you should be able to do respectable 1.5-2.0k dps on bosses with that weapon. There's really no need to spend gold on any weapon, unless that weapon is one you get at the end of a long quest-line that starts with a Battered Hilt. The crafted weapons aren't really that much better than the quest axe I linked, and you're not going to go into ICC with titansteel destroyer. Your expensive titansteel is much better utilized for some of the crafted armor gregg mentioned.
Pyromelter Jun 9th 2010 7:53PM
bah, fail link. Here is the axe that is the quest reward from the quest i linked above: http://www.wowhead.com/item=41816/
tidalkraken Jun 10th 2010 12:06PM
Don't forget Garfrost's two-ton hammer!
Felix_NZ Jun 9th 2010 6:31PM
Can't wait for the Heroic items list, I've been considering switching my secondary spec to ret (Holy/Prot currently) for cata levelling, and now that tanks are much more plentiful than they once were. I've also been able to pick up a couple of DPS pieces from the ICC-5mans, and my ret gs is now fast catching up to my prot one. My questions is, what to rets get from Agi? I've seen a couple of places claiming that hunter polearms and rogue leather are apparently really great for Ret dps, is this true?
Kahlim Jun 9th 2010 6:57PM
Well, if you're doing the change for leveling in cataclysm. Don't do the rogue leather. Remember the thing about wanting to wear the plate armor for the plate benefits?
And I suspect with the polearm, it's an issue of "does it hit harder than the one you have?"
If so, then yea, give it a shot. But, I'd still trump with strength. And that's the thing with the leather, does the AP on the rogue leather, get you the same 2.3AP from a strength item in the same slot?
Pyromelter Jun 9th 2010 7:14PM
It's not that it's just agility, it's the overall itemization. Leather has less stamina (and therefore more item points for dps stats), and dps paladins like crit. Agility gives you crit, and it scales with raid buffs and blessing of kings. Leather items are more likely to give you more crit and haste.
Compare the BiS pally belt:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50067
v. a very good plate belt you can get for emblems:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50987
While the critical strike on the plate belt looks better at first, the +104 agility gives you a full 2% critical strike rating. The leather belt gives you almost a full 4% crit from ONE item, and that only goes up with Blessing of Kings. And while armor penetration is suboptimal for Paladins, it's still a stat that will increase your dps through physical strikes. And once you get a proc-based weapon like Bryntroll or a proc-based trinket like Tiny Abomination in a Jar, haste starts also scaling amazingly well.
So basically, for paladins, it's the combination of all the DPS stats that is on leather without being hamstrung by extra stamina and armor that makes some leather items Best in Slot.
Aloix Jun 9th 2010 7:38PM
Speaking of leather, if one does have plenty of gold or whatever and is getting some craftables, I would wait a bit on getting the i264 boots until you see what the rest of your kit looks like, because with the rest of your gear eventally, the Leather ones (http://www.wowhead.com/item=49895) may be a better choice. Or you could just assume they will be and get those instead.
I would also caution against getting the plate i264 pants crafted because you WILL be using the t10 ones eventually as part of your 4pc. The gloves are the one piece of the tier set rets eventually drop/replace, but since the 2 pc bonus is critical to get ASAP and the shoulders/gloves are the cheapest to get frostie-wise, unless you get lucky on VoA drops you will probably purchase those 2 first.
Do NOT buy anything else with your frosties until you have your tier 10 set.
I'm sure that will be covered in the 3rd part but I just wanted to get that out there ;-)
Pyromelter Jun 9th 2010 7:56PM
Aloix is right, uprate that man. Here is one other suggestion though:
You can "borrow" the Herkuml War Token, if you have, say 75 emblems of frost and are not ready to get your helm/chest or whatever. Spend the 60 frost emblems for the trinket, use it for less than 2 hours, then go sell it back to the vendor for your 60 frosties. Then buy it right back so you can "borrow" it for another 2 hours if you need. (This works great for any trinket, for any class and spec.)
Boobah Jun 9th 2010 11:04PM
Paladins currently have the best agility-to-crit conversion of any physical DPS class; for whatever reason, it's a little better than what warriors and DKs get, and all the others had their agility:crit ratios nerfed to keep them from scaling too well with agility, since it was going to be stacked for the AP anyway. Point-for-point, a paladin does still prefer crit rating to agility, but it's close; something like 49.something crit rating = 1% crit = 52 agi.
jbodar Jun 10th 2010 6:41AM
Question: won't Leather become less attractive in Cata because all the AP will become Agi?
Fanon Jun 10th 2010 10:27AM
One thing to remember is that while AGI does scale with Kings, the Crit Strike rating we gain from AGI is melee-only. +Crit applies to both melee and spell, and while spell crit isn't really that important to ret, it is helpful for spot heals (Flash of Light) and Exorcism.
clundgren Jun 10th 2010 11:39AM
Jbodar: It sure looks that way.
Fletcher Jun 9th 2010 6:54PM
I'm looking forward to more on Ret trinkets ... I've got Greatness, but my other slot is still sporting the Titan-Forged Rune of Determination, for lack of a better trinket that doesn't have hit or ArP on it.
Pyromelter Jun 9th 2010 7:17PM
Whispering Fanged Skull is just waiting for you to grab it from the clutches of Lady Deathwhisper. If you are swimming in frost emblems, and have terrible luck with WFS, then you should go get the Herkuml War Token. It's not BiS by any means, but it scales well with proc-based weapons, and is way way better than the pvp +attack power trinket.
Kuro Jun 9th 2010 7:32PM
ArP trinkies aren't all bad!
Banner of Victory's proc (Equip: Each time you hit with a melee or ranged attack, you have a chance to gain 1008 attack power for 10 sec.) makes it decent even though the main stat is ArP. I think it's the BiS dungeon trinket you can get.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=47214/
Herkuml War Token is even better if you've got the frost badges to spare..
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50355/
Aloix Jun 9th 2010 7:42PM
Being 'obvious' but 'frost badges to spare' means you already have your 4 pc t10.
I see far too many rets with the 264 badge belt/cloak/trinket/libram that don't.
Heilig Jun 9th 2010 8:40PM
"Banner of Victory's proc (Equip: Each time you hit with a melee or ranged attack, you have a chance to gain 1008 attack power for 10 sec.) makes it decent even though the main stat is ArP. I think it's the BiS dungeon trinket you can get."
No. Just no.
For a few badges of HEROISM, you can get the Mirror of Truth. Almost exactly the same proc, and crit instead of useless Arpen.
Tom Jun 10th 2010 2:49PM
Get both the Mirror and the Banner - the bonuses to attack power stack.