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6-11-2010 @ 1:01AM
Re Lightwell: "What it needs are smart and creative players who will find brilliant uses for it." - It also requirs smart players to stop their dps rotations, or tanking cooldowns to switch to the lightwell with a right-click, and then back again. If you haven't noticed WoW isn't exactly the place to look for smart players.They've already fixed Lightwell in the 5-man Trial of the Champion on the second boss's adds. A lightwell is summoned and spouts light out of it, damaging us. Why can't they adjust this ability to spout light out at us healing us at the same time?Blizzard absolutely knows that everyone HATES this talent. They know that no one takes it, but for some reason they insist on keeping it without change. We can tell that they know, because they have made it a pre-requisite for a must have talent in that of Chakra.First they talk about taking out all those boring talents that nobody likes, and they talk about taking away having to take those certain talents to get must-haves. I really question how seriously they're taking these talent tree changes and your support for the unchanged Lightwell makes me question how seriously you took writing this article.
6-11-2010 @ 1:08AM
to further this comment, dawn i suggest you do another poll.... who ishappy with how lightwell currently acts.....or even funnier...how many times have you used klightwell in wrath? possible answers being:a) Not at allb) once or twicec) more than ten times since wrath launched.I'm curious to see if anyone puts anything in answer C
6-11-2010 @ 2:57AM
b) once or twiceAnd that was when I was still idealistic.Any heal that requires a non-healer to stop what they're doing and click on it is simply not going to be effective. Maybe if it gave them temporary invincibility or crazy dps they'd care.I'd love it if it were a beacon that gave out smart heals every second in, say, a 5-yard radius for a very short time. Or even applies smaller-scale hot to all members that pass through its radius for the time that it's up (how awesome would that be for PVP in bottleneck areas like the tunnels at wsg or the bridge at av?). How about reducing damage for all in its area of effect? Any one of these options works. It's already stationary and if it seems too op, just reduce the time that it's active. I can think of plenty of possibilities and I bet countless others have already been thought of, but they all require that you don't actually have to click on the damned thing. Doesn't matter how much healing it gives you, if the other guy is in combat, he's not going to click on it.
6-11-2010 @ 3:08AM
I would put in C. It's nice in BG's
6-11-2010 @ 3:37AM
OP: The language you use is the same language everyone uses to argue against Lightwell, and Blizzard has already responded to it. They do not intend to implement the ToC Lightwell, as they want to keep the character interaction as an aspect to it. Therefore ToC's lightwell is not a fix. If it doesn't involve player interaction, it's not Lightwell. That's why when I wrote my lightwell proposals in the older article I linked - I talked about making Lightwell something you wanted to click. Why does lightwell have to heal, I asked? Why can't it buff or res a player or players? But again, those are proposals I wrote that still stand alongside my feelings that lightwell is good in the hands of the right people. My raid team is always able to find uses for it if they know I have it.The "boring talents no one likes" you refer to were not made to reference spells like Lightwell, but rather spells that buff damage or healing by x percentage. I talk about my thoughts on that in the disc post.Lightwell may find a home in Cata, as Blizzard has said they want the new game to be slower and reward players for how good they are at strategy. There are a lot of area oriented talents in all the class previews, and I think Lightwell will fit in nicely with that.Finally, my dedication to writing this article has no connection to my opinion on Lightwell, other than you recently forcing the ideas together into an illogical conclusion in your comment. It's logic is comparable to this statement: "She likes George Orwell, therefore she didn't take this report on the Spainish Revolution seriously." To this I will politely "hmph!" and tip toe back to my alabaster pedestal.Eturyu: I could definitely make a poll like that, though I don't really need a poll to know I am in the minority on this one. Not to mention, it's hard to use lightwell if you're not specced into it, so the numbers wouldn't be very accurate. That's why I support Blizzard having us take it - if we always have it we'll find places to play with it since we might as well use it if we have it.I could answer C though =) the fight where we used it most was HM General Vezax, followed by Malygos. Soakers used it on ToGC twins. ICC I have been disc the whole time, so I can't offer more recent places to use it. It has a lot of PvP utility too, since you can click it while incapacitated/feared/ etc.I have held back on doing a Lightwell article for sometime now, but perhaps it is about time.
6-11-2010 @ 10:34AM
I use lightwell all the time. I've always had it. I usually put it right where the boss is gonna be tanked so either the tank can easily reach over and grab it for those 'need to use a CD' situations or melee can reach over and grab it. Or I'll put it in situations like Lady Deathwhisper quest, we tank the add in the back. I put my lightwell back there, and don't have to worry about the tank on the add. I agree that it does require members to actually use it. But when raid leader asks, what killed you? And if the person says, 'I didn't get any heals'. I always reply there is a lightwell down you can go take one if you feel like you're not getting healed. And now it is to a point where the raid expects a lightwell and use it.
6-11-2010 @ 11:52AM
The problem with lightwell is that DPS are not educated in it's use. Some still think that it will mess up their rotation or lower their DPS which is not true. You can click a lightwell WHILE CASTING. All you need to do is click it while casting any of your normal spells, and then immediately hit TAB to re-target the boss. If they knew this, they would use it.
6-11-2010 @ 1:12PM
I think the real problem people have with Lightwell is that it's a spell. It's a spell with a really specific and limited use. Why is it a talent at all? Just make it a spell, already.
6-14-2010 @ 10:31AM
Let me be clear, I use Lightwell. Yes, I do, I use it for myself. Only myself. I place it where I plan to be spending most of my time, or near where I'm going to be running. It means I'm able to set it up before the fight starts, so it's off cooldown early and I can use it again. It heals about 5k per tick, and means I can have myself topped up while whack-a-moling the raid, but I still think it could be better/changed.ToC implementation was just an example of what could be done with the ability Lightwell, an example that it could be better, not that blizzard should make it that way exactly.How many people have to NOT take Lightwell for it to become a "boring talent that no one likes?" Why is it that the elite of the elite never take Lightwell? Sure, it looks cool, it could have been a good idea with different combat mechanics that didn't require rotations, but in the end, it just doesn't work. Compare Lightwell with other tier 7 healing spells: Swiftmend, Mana Tide Totem, Holy Shock, even Power Infusion. Let's make Mana Tide Totem an on-click mana return... How many other spells do you need to raid warning or whisper your raid members "Oh, if you want mana click on this totem here"...How many other spells in the entire game can you mention that involve player interaction such as this? A spell that for other players (those that must right-click) cannot be key-bound. Even other spells that require clicking on other players, e.g Tricks of the Trade, Misdirection, Intervene, can all be key-bound and clicked without switching targets, limiting down-time between their rotations and what-not.Your dedication to writing this article is absolutely linked to your opinion on Lightwell, but not just Lightwell, all spells, broken or otherwise. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I would think that writing for a website such as wow.com, the writer would have the player's best interests at heart. I do not believe this is the case as I believe player's best interests involves at least an attempt at changing Lightwell, instead of forcing all Holy Priests to take it. The comments towards the original article and the voting towards said comments are a testament to that.
6-14-2010 @ 12:03PM
If my job was to parrot the ideas and conventions of the majority, then what good would I be? What good would I be if all I did was speak to the choir of priests and reaffirm beliefs. If my dedication to writing a single section of the entire article offends you, then I can't help that, but honestly I'm appalled that you think it is my duty to not challenge convention. What would be the point of reading my articles be if I told you things you already thought for yourself?Blizzard has said again and again they do not want Lightwell to become a passive ability. That means the ToC ability is out completely, so why keep suggesting it? And, what constructive good is it for me to just cry about it like everyone else? Say "oh Oh OH Blizzard! How dare you make us take this talent!" I would rather work with what I have, and honestly, from an experimental standpoint, I am very excited to see what happens when holy priests are all suddenly armed with Lightwell. People will have it, play with it, and like I said in the article, what comes out of that could be great, horrid, or much of the same. But we can't know until then because we have not given it a chance. Not in mass. There are priests who tell me "I never took it ever because I was told it was bad." They just sat on the opinion of some priest, or guide, or something. What do I say? Try it out, even if everyone hates it, and give it an honest chance. You might start to see it the way I do. But if you think I'm wrong then by all means.As for elite players... It's quite a poor point to bring up, as where Lightwell would help most in the average fight (a point in the encounter where healers are strained and need extra help) is a strain most elite guilds do not have. Elite players are only going to respec from their "this is my spec for this raid" if there is a fight that is hard enough to demand it. And when that happened, if Lightwell had a beneficial support to bring to the strategy then I'm sure they would use it. I am not the only player in the upper rungs who believes Lightwell is a strong spell, and an option to be utilized if the right situation arises. But the ideas of elite players and the ideas of average players often butt heads. You can read many threads on the official priests forums about this, where players will say "WHY DID THIS GOOD PLAYER TAKE THIS AWFUL TALENT?!" Obviously, because they had a use for it. Lightwell is a talent like that, waiting to be tapped into by anyone who has the drive to do so.That said, I wrote up a lengthy article on lightwell and explain how I see it being used. You may want to look into it.
6-14-2010 @ 10:34PM
Stupid wow.com comment reply system...The fact that you say I keep "bringing up" the ToC ability as a 'suggestion' shows me that you did not even read my response, I merely mentioned it as something different and better, not the solution. "What constructive good is it for me to just cry" is basically a fancy way of saying "why should I QQ like you". This is a very immature response and I would expect more from a professional and you need to be more calm when writing.Priests will not be suddenly all armed with Lightwell, they are being forced to take it for another strong talent point. My point with the elite is not a poor one as you state, for they will and have tried every talent and spec in most situations and know that Lightwell has limited use and talents are better spent elsewhere.Another reason I can see you're not taking this seriously is that you reference the official forums! I mean, if I wanted to be trolled and given terrible advice I would go there, but never would the official forums be more than a grain of salt to me.The simple fact remains, Lightwell is still unchanged, has not even been touched, and every priest is basically being forced to spend a talent point on it, which goes against blizzard's cata-talent-point-ethos. By all means, keep Lightwell in the talent tree, just don't force us to take it.
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