Blood Sport: An overview of WotLK arena systems
Want to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women? Blood Sport investigates the entirety of all things arena for gladiators and challengers alike. C. Christian Moore, multiple rank 1 gladiator, examines the latest arena strategy, trends, compositions and more in WoW.com's arena column. Also, apparently, arena history is discussed as well, as evidenced by these last three articles. Mmm arena history -- the tastiest kind.
Listening Music: Sufjan Stevens with Chicago. Someone recommend me an awesome band for next week in the comments plz, kkthnx.
Last Week: We talked about personal ratings at the tail-end of The Burning Crusade.
This Week: We've spent the last two weeks looking at arena with a rating system that was originally designed for chess matches. Let's talk a little about Wrath of the Lich King and some very significant matchmaking changes.
MMR: The new frontier.
MMR (matchmaking rating) was designed to prevent high-rated teams from stomping low-rated teams game after game. Arenas are generally more competitive if teams are evenly matched -- therefore, competition is greatest if teams are evenly matched all the time.
In case you haven't set foot in arena for the past three or four seasons, matchmaking rating is often called the most important rating in arena. Why, you ask? Arena points, titles, and mounts are based on your TR (Team Rating). PR (Personal Rating), if you recall correctly, is a qualifier that says you do or do not deserve the benefits of your team rating.
Matchmaking rating, however, is what makes your TR and PR go up or down. The higher your MMR is, the more points you will win from teams if your TR is vastly lower than your MMR. Likewise, if your MMR is very low, it will be harder for you to get to those gladiator ratings.
Interesting, right?
In season six, our team's 5v5 matchmaking rating was around ~3020 while our team rating was about 2815. Even though we were playing teams that were only 2200-2400 rated, we would still gain significant points because of the large gap (200ish points) between MMR and TR. However, having a very high MMR is not always favorable -- upon our first loss (disconnects are so unfortunate sometimes), we dropped 47 team rating... and a lot of matchmaking rating.
The most one can lose in a single match governed by an Elo-based rating system (like the one used in arena seasons one through four) is ~30 team rating. Dropping from 2815 to 2785 might not seem that much better than dropping from 2815 to 2768 for the same type of loss -- until you factor in MMR.
By losing to a 2300 team, our 2800 team dropped 177 matchmaking rating. Again, MMR determines how quickly your TR jumps or falls. By losing 177 MMR, we had lost 47 TR in addition to an incredible amount of TR generating potential.
In an Elo system, even if you lose the most amount of team rating possible (~30), you only lose that much matchmaking rating because your team rating is your matchmaking rating. By adding in a second system, potential wins and losses are enormous and streaks become much more important. Winning multiple games in a row gives a team an inflated MMR which allows TR to boost up. Losing many games in a row does the same thing in the opposite direction.
Think about the New York Yankees winning a baseball game against the Philadelphia Phillies. The Yankees get their first win of the season and are now 1-0. After their win, they play against the Chicago White Sox, which are also 1-0 on the season, but the Yankees lose. The Yanks are now 1-1. However, because the White Sox won two games in a row, their record is now 3-0, even though they've only played two games of baseball on the season.
While this is a vast oversimplification of what's going on, MMR and TR piggyback one another pretty hard which is why we've seen some pretty ridiculous ratings inflation even though arena representation is much lower than it was in The Burning Crusade.
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The goal of MMR is for gladiators to fight gladiators, duelists vs. duelists, challengers vs. challengers, etc. The MMR system actually does this fairly well. While some gladiators will have a 3v3 MMR of 2950 and other gladiators will have 2600 3v3 MMRs, they still get paired up even though the disparity of points is great. People with 1500 MMRs generally get paired up against other people with similar MMRs from 1400-1600.
I've been playing a lot of chess lately. Don't worry, this is going somewhere.
I find when I play against people with a similar skill level to myself, we trade games back and forth. This is, after all, how a balanced game works when you play multiple games against someone with basically the same skill level. However, I've also noticed something else: my own skill does not dramatically improve. I get much better at chess when I play people who have more experience at the game than I do. It makes me a better player to face different successful strategies.
Arena is a lot like chess. If you don't play opponents who are much more skilled than yourself, you can't see new and interesting strategies to combat or mimic. This is why "top arena players" sometimes aggregate to one battlegroup, or why they want to get sponsored and do LAN events with other top players. It makes them better players.
In this vein, matchmaking rating has robbed mid-level arena teams from trying to combat the top players on the battlegroup. I remember my first time facing the #1 2v2 team on our battlegroup. It was season two; we were priest-warlock vs. hunter-druid. The hunter-druid team was incredibly good and overall did very well against us on the day. We were able to sneak a few wins in, although they gained about 30 rating off of us overall. I think we went 3-6 against them, maybe 2-5. The fact that we were able to beat them at all gave us confidence to continue on. Without those games against them, I might have given up and followed other endeavors in WoW.
Team Rating: 0
I'm not sure how to flow into a negative statement, so...
Negative statement incoming! Thou hast been warned.
Starting at a team rating of zero is possibly the worst thing that has ever happened to arena. I'm really not a big doom-and-gloom guy. I think most of my work praises Blizzard for trying to make arena fun and friendly. Unfortunately, this is not one of those times.
The idea behind starting arena teams at zero was to encourage new arena players. Starting at 1500 is awesome, but when you're on the same team for a few days and suddenly you're down to 1100 rating, it can get a bit depressing.
Blizzard developers decided that starting at zero would be much more casual-friendly. If you only play 10 or 20 games a week, you make a substantial amount of progress -- especially because when you lose, you lose 0 points, but when you win, you win anywhere from 1-47 points! Sounds great so far, right?
Well, not really. You see, that doesn't really fix the old problem. If a team is a 1100 rated team, they will naturally gravitate to that rating. Matchmaking rating (as we've mentioned before) actually bogs newer players down because they can't make substantial TR gains, and because they can't play much better players to evolve superior strategies. Moreover, if a team with the new rating decides they don't want to be at 1100 rating anymore they have to do one of the following...
- Team hop, which the new system heavily discourages.
- Get new players on the team. (how many players want to leave their team to join a 1100 rated team?)
- Start a new team with new players. (and make the 50+ game grind again)
You might be keen to the clause that states if you join a team that has a team rating of 1000 or more, you will instantly get 1000 personal rating when you join.
Starting at 1000 personal rating if someone grinds a new team up for you isn't much better. That's 500 points lower than 1500 which is still 11+ wins you have to sit through until you can break the magic barrier of 1500. 11+ wins takes a good amount of time, especially if you have lots of losses in between. You'll have to play far more games than that if you have a matchmaking rating lower than 1500 (which remember, are the people we're trying to penalize the least).
Sadly, a measure established to prevent new players from growing bored of arena or advancing is doing exactly that. Teams need to start back at 1500 so new players aren't penalized for losing or having a low MMR.
Next Week
Okay, so I'm pretty sure I'm done talking about rating systems -- like, forever. Next week we'll talk about some interesting compositions in arena and why they succeed.
Want to ascend the arena ladders faster than a fireman playing Donkey Kong? Check out WoW.com's articles on arena, successful arena PvPers, PvP, and our arena column, Blood Sport.Filed under: PvP, Blood Sport (Arena PvP)






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Obviously Jun 21st 2010 3:03PM
"Annihilation of the Wicked" by Nile is a good song!
Willowrot Jun 21st 2010 11:45PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=labytsb3gfI
Mastodon - Blood and Thunder
I dare you to use this.
Lok'tar Ogar
Dadruidess Jun 21st 2010 3:11PM
Awsome bands:
Karmakanic - Who's the boss in the factory
Old skool Pink Floyd
Arcade Fire
Fleet foxes
REM
the XX
Dadruidess Jun 21st 2010 10:52PM
and by Old skool pink floyd I simply mean 'Pink Floyd'
Dadruidess Jun 22nd 2010 5:12PM
more bands I can think of:
Rodrigo y Gabriela - Diablo rojo (the most skilled accoustic guitar -- ever - covering many Metallica songs. what more could you want?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lvMQCmUVv8
speaking of metallica...
Metallica S&M disc - the ecstasy of gold (song that was in The good, the bad and the ugly movie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG62B_dHfDQ
Pink floyd - Wish you were here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdNnw99-Ic
Enjoy! :)
olbaldy77 Jun 21st 2010 3:11PM
"Monkey Gone To Heaven" by the Pixies. Or anything else with Frank Black and Mrs. John Murphy.
Addnik Jun 21st 2010 3:19PM
If you liked Sufjan I might recommend The Polyphonic Spree or Andrew Bird.
Elovan Jun 21st 2010 3:21PM
I'm gonna follow suit and say something about the music, because I certainly didn't understand a word in the article.
.... umm, music is awesome?
JerichoWin Jun 21st 2010 3:27PM
A friend of mine and I tried our hand at arena for the first time a month ago. We had the best pvp we could through bgs, the right builds, gems, chants etc. We put in roughly 40 games and never once won a game. I understand we may not be skilled, but with a mmr of 400 we still encountered full wrathful geared players! How is this appropriate matchmaking? We can't even break 500 resilience and we are up against 1k+ people! In 40 games my hunter managed to fire 10 arrows and the rest was stunned or other means of not being able to attack! I see that hunter and mage don't work well, but I'm stumped as to how mmr 400 is matching us with people that obviously had 1800+ ratings at one time! We have since quit arena and went back to the bg's. New players are definitley discouraged!
croker Jun 21st 2010 3:56PM
I agree the arena is very new player unfriendly - You have too lose too many just figure out what to do to compete. There is nothing in the game (including bg's that prepare you for it). Most of the advice from good arena players is be prepared to lose a lot to start; not sure how that helps encourage people to play the arenas. I know it didn't encourage me. But maybe bliz wants it that way.
Lokradu Jun 21st 2010 5:58PM
I don't know when you took this foray into Arena, but 500 resilience seems low. lately I've been pvp'ing in BGs like mad on my warlock (micheil on kael'thas). It took a month or two to get where I am now (which really isn't that bad), but between VoA 10/25, honor gear, emblem pvp gear, and the arena points from my daily BG, I'm at 913 resilience (with only one +20 res gem). I'm looking now to get my 4th set piece (232 or 251 helm) and the 245 ring once I have the honor for it, so that should push me right over the 1000 mark. And this is all without doing any arena whatsoever. Now if only I could get the 270 pants and gloves from Toravon 25....
Mr. Tastix Jun 21st 2010 7:41PM
500 Resil is fine depending on what your class is. I'm a Prot Paladin, I have about 500-600 Resil, I don't get focused as much as my healer does though, therefore, I see no reason to stack it.
What you're referring to is also known as "smurfing", and it's one of the reasons I stopped doing Arenas for a long time, as well. Basic idea is that those who smurf are generally trying to grief new players or get easy kills for no other reason than because they enjoy it. In Arena, some people find it entertaining to get some of the best Arena gear, then deliberately lose until they've gotten a substantially low MMR, then they lay waste on all the newbies because the MMR matched them up with them, thinking that they're evenly matched.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurfing_(online_gaming)
There's really not much you can do except not to play when they're online.
Defoe Jun 22nd 2010 8:51AM
Its hard to pass too much judgement because you havent given us all the info, but a few observations about your post:
1) 400 resil is still very low. You can get over 1000 resil just with honor farmed gear, so I am wondering about the validity of your statement that "we had the best pvp gear you can get from BGs".
You are using the level 80 pvp gear vendors right? 400 resil was good in TBC.
2) Arena is a very steep learning curve, it will take quite a few games to get the hang of it.
Terethall Jun 21st 2010 3:56PM
I love Chicago so much. Best song featured on Blood Sport so far.
Terethall Jun 21st 2010 3:57PM
Edit: Album version is far better than the live version. Faaarrrrr better.
Phaythe Jun 21st 2010 4:00PM
The Flaming Lips - Fight Test, Yoshimi Vs. The Pink Robots, Do You Realize??
Damien Rice - Hallelujah (tribute performance, Cohen's 2008 R&R HOF Induction ceremony), Cannonball
The Stones - Beast of Burden
Johnny Lang - Give Me Up Again, Irish Angel
Wilco - Jesus, etc., War on War
Flath Jun 21st 2010 4:00PM
As someone who has only ever done arena casually, I actually prefer the new system much more to the old system. In the new system, I could actually see rewards as my partner(s) and I played.
One of the main things that changed under the new systems wasn't the way ratings work...your rating still drifts to the same number either way whether you start at 0 or 1500...but rather the fact that they lowered the rating requirements on gear to where you could have a sub 1500 rating and actually buy things. In the new system I play my way up to the number I'm trying to get to for new gear, in the old system I have to try to play well enough not to decrease below what I need.
As a casual, one of the biggest barriers to arena is this constant feeling of always being two tiers behind. I feel like every time I do arena I'm at a disadvantage because other teams have better gear, yet at the same time I have to win a decent amount of the time if I want to improve. The removal of ratings as a requirement for gear is something I'm very much looking forward to in Cataclysm. I have enough motivation as it to try to succeed inherently without the barriers that rating requirements cause.
Defoe Jun 22nd 2010 9:09AM
Hello Flath,
Your sentiments are very similar to mine.
Just wanted to make you aware that Relentless armor piecves have no rating requirement now - so you will potentially at most only be 1 tier behind instead of two.
Blunderwear Jun 21st 2010 4:38PM
I'd go with "Quiet Little Voices" by We Were Promised Jetpacks (which is good for just the name alone) if you're in the mood for some arena rock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ZhBAylbN4
Kurtzilla Jun 21st 2010 4:11PM
Might I suguest Hallelujah The Hills? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0wsVdRvKP8 is quite the song.