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6-22-2010 @ 9:17AM
And so RealID goes live as-is, which makes me a sad panda. Hopefully after some usage numbers roll in, we'll see a patch that adds the ability to have Battle.net friends without compromising our personal info.
6-22-2010 @ 9:04AM
I agree. It seems stupid to me they would add this functionality to the game and then restrict who you can safely use it on. I wanted to add my guild officers so I could chat with them when playing on the opposite faction. Not happening now. I can only hope others feel the same way, how are they going to react when I tell them no you're not my "real life" friend I can't add you.
6-22-2010 @ 9:18AM
@Tony MotorolaThe problem is that they've tied features into RealID that have no reason to be limited to just IRL friends. We want features like cross-server and cross-game friends lists and text and voice chat to be used with, not necessarily every pugger we come across (please note Kaylin said guild officers, not random puggers), but people we repeatedly play with and have good experiences with. Tying them to RealID restricts them in ways that there's no good reason to. Other gaming networks like, for example, Xbox Live and Steam, allow these features, all of them, while using pseudonyms. Tying them into RealID feels unnecessary, a cheap marketing info tactic that's being done at the cost of player functionality.
6-22-2010 @ 9:19AM
Unfortunately this "people you already know" argument falls flat on it's face when you look at Blizzards own FAQ.They explicitly say: 'In addition, players who are Real ID friends with that player will be able to see your name in a “friends of friends” list'So while you may have friended your classmate because you know him, do you really know if has has a psycho axe wielding guild drama queen who wants to get even on his friends list?
6-22-2010 @ 9:22AM
I wonder if an addon would be able to create the features we want thru ReadID?
6-22-2010 @ 9:29AM
Tony, I'm going to assume you're not an idiot when you type so I must say, troll harder sir. Feel free to prove me wrong.
6-22-2010 @ 9:46AM
@Tony MotorolaWho, exactly, are you arguing with? Oh...nice strawman you've got there. Meanwhile, you're not arguing with anything that's actually been said, you're just creating argumentative noise. Meanwhile, you're ignoring what we've said...the problem is not RealID, but that features that have no good reason to be (Cross-game and cross-server friends list and chat) are tied into RealID with no option for a handle.I'm going with Kaylin on this one...troll harder.
6-22-2010 @ 10:01AM
@Tony MotorolaNo, I call someone a troll when they engage if egregious strawman arguments, dodging what was actually said and instead arguing with far more ridiculous arguments which were never actually voiced, all while trying to make it come across as though that was the other person's argument.Do you have a reason that these features, which exist in all other gaming networks (Xbox Live, PSN, Steam) with the use of handles, should be tied only to RealID friends? Because that's the actual point people have brought up here. RealID is fine. The fact that RealID exists is fine. Requiring it for cross-game and cross-faction friends lists and chat is what we really have a problem with.
6-22-2010 @ 10:24AM
Aww...oh well. And here I was just starting to be amused by your poorly crafted trolling, presuming intentions I never had, implying harsh tones or yelling/shouting where there was none. Have fun elsewhere! ^_^
6-22-2010 @ 10:33AM
What you're finished? But...but... I just made popcorn...
6-22-2010 @ 11:26AM
Tony isn't trolling. You just don't have a legitimate response, Kay(lin).
6-22-2010 @ 11:55AM
I wondered when I saw that name how long it would be before someone accused me of sock-puppeting. No, we're not the same person. Honestly, if I was going to, would I be so blatantly obvious as to do a variation/similar name? Give me a -little- credit.Anyway...Explain to me how saying the following: The Battle.net features of Cross-Game and Cross-Faction friends lists and chat should not require RealID to use.is not a legitimate response. Because that has been, and will continue to be, the actual point of my argument.RealID is fine.Tying all of the new Battle.net features to RealID is not.
6-22-2010 @ 12:34PM
So... you want them to add another way to add friends?Some people are already confused now (with character friend and realID) and adding one more system would just be a mess.
6-22-2010 @ 2:58PM
@ahacReally? Your argument is that handles would be confusing? As in the -standard- for every other gaming network in existence?It's simple. If you trust them enough to divulge your real info, use RealID. If not, use your handle. Also, who is honestly that confused by the difference between character friending and battle.net friending?
6-22-2010 @ 5:14PM
@TonyMotorola"I'm guessing those of you that are freaking out over RealID are the same people that go absolutely bonkers when Facebook changes a button design or privacy setting."Wait... seriously? So people who have been using a social network for so long because 1) They're comfortable with it's level of privacy that it's; 2) Become the primary (if not only) point of contact with their friends should just suck it up and roll over when they suddenly lose said privacy? And they can only get said privacy back by tunneling through the opt-out choices /after the cat's already been let out of the bag/? If they don't like it (after it's already been done) they should just quit the service and lose said contacts and the convenience of having them in one place?Wow! That's cold, dude. If and when you start getting spammed by a gold seller who hacked a friend of a friend's account and got your toon via his Real ID info, let us know.
6-22-2010 @ 5:19PM
Agreed, very sad panda. There are so many problems with Real ID it's a shame. You have to share out your login to use it. You have no control over the information shared with "friends of friends". It on by default and the only way to turn it off is by enabling parental controls, expect a bunch of bogus friend requests. They use your billing/registration information, when they didn't tell you they were going to share when they collected it. They even had to change the TOS. They have already added features to entice you to use the feature. Expect it to be far more necessary with SCII and Diablo III.
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