The Light and How to Swing It: Gearing a new level 80 ret paladin, part 3

We're at the end of our three part series of how to gear a brand new ret pally. Our first part was craftables and reputation gear which took us primarily through blacksmithing and Knights of the Ebon Blade. The second part was the upgrades you could grab from dungeon gear when you start hitting heroic dungeons. However, this week we're going to run through the badge gear from Emblems of Frost all the way down to Emblems of Heroism. See you after the break.
Emblem of Frost -These are the top items you can buy with badges. However, the problem you run into is that as a new level 80, you've got so few of them to start out with. You're likely not running any content that grants them other than your daily heroic and possibly the weekly raid kill. However, these are all swank items and you'll do well grabbing a few. Also, as I pointed out in the new tankadin article, the normal frost badge items are higher quality than the actual tier 10 set. So whenever you've got overlap, choose the badge gear over the tier gear to get the most bang for your buck.
- Might of the Ocean Serpent (50)
- Libram of the Three Truths (30)
- Castle Breaker's Battleplate (95)
- Gatecrasher's Gauntlets (60)
- Malevolent Girdle (60)
- Herkuml War Token (60)
- Lightsworn Shoulderplates (60)
- Lightsworn Legplates (95)
- Lightsworn Helmet (95)
- Lightsworn Gauntlets (60)
- Lightsworn Battleplate (95)
- Relentless Gladiator's Scaled Chestpiece (95 Frost badges or 13,200 Honor and 770 Arena Points)
- Relentless Gladiator's Scaled Gauntlets (60 Frost badges or 8,000 Honor and 440 Arena Points)
- Relentless Gladiator's Scaled Helm (95 Frost badges or 13,200 Honor and 770 Arena Points)
- Relentless Gladiator's Scaled Legguards (95 Frost badges or 13,200 Honor and 770 Arena Points)
- Relentless Gladiator's Scaled Shoulders (60 Frost badges or 10,550 Honor and 660 Arena Points)
- Libram of Valiance (25)
- Helm of Thunderous Rampage (75)
- Pauldrons of Trembling Rage (45)
- Bloodshed Band (35)
- Mark of Supremacy (50)
- Furious Gladiator's Scaled Chestpiece (75 Triumph badges or 54,500 Honor)
- Furious Gladiator's Scaled Gauntlets (50 Triumph badges or 43,300 Honor)
- Furious Gladiator's Scaled Helm (75 Triumph badges or 54,500 Honor)
- Furious Gladiator's Scaled Legguards (75 Triumph badges or 34,700 Honor)
- Furious Gladiator's Scaled Shoulders (50 Triumph badges or 34,700 Honor)
- Horde (210 in total)
- Alliance (210 in total)
- Spiked Battleguard Choker (19)
- Breastplate of the Wayward Conqueror (58)
- Crown of the Wayward Conqueror (58)
- Libram of Discord (19)
- Belt of the Singing Blade (28)
- Bladebreaker Gauntlets (28)
- Legplates of the Violet Champion (39)
Emblem of Valor - There are a ring and cloak in the frost level of gear, but if you're looking for bargain basement equipment that you can trade down triumph for valor. These are going to be better than your basic heroics.
- Legplates of the Lost Conqueror (75)
- Mantle of the Lost Conqueror (60)
- Hammerhead Sharkskin Cloak (25)
- Libram of Radiance (25)
- Bladed Steelboots (40)
- Wristbands of the Sentinel Huntress (60)
- Ring of Invincibility (25)
Emblem of Heroism - Loot of raid tiers past. There really isn't much to grab from here other than the trinket ... oh ... and epic gems. Yeah, pure gems are twice as much the hybrid gems, but you can also get them via honor or the auction house.
- Pendant of the Outcast Hero (25)
- Chestguard of the Lost Conqueror (80)
- Gloves of the Lost Conqueror (80)
- Libram of Reciprocation (15)
- Verdungo's Barbarian Cord (40)
- Mirror of Truth (40)
- Epic Gems
- Majestic Zircon (20)
- Cardinal Ruby (20)
- King's Amber (20)
- Dreadstone (10)
- Eye of Zul (10)
- Ametrine (10)
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
terraburn Jun 23rd 2010 3:12PM
Does it not matter that armor pen isn't good for ret paladins? I would think you'd value expertise and haste over armorpen; even in badge vs tier.
Boobah Jun 23rd 2010 4:13PM
Expertise caps easily (10 expertise from Glyph of Seal of Vengeance, for starters) and haste doesn't do a whole lot for Rets either. Armor Pen gets markedly better once you've got 2t10, also, since that moves Divine Storm up the priority list thanks to the lower (if variable) cooldown.
Dbodinem Jun 23rd 2010 3:50PM
So, since their is only 5 pieces for Tier 9, if you choose the Triumph helm and shoulders over the tier pieces you are breaking the 4 piece bonus.
Are the Triumph pieces so much better that it is worth losing the 4 piece bonus? Arguably when you start replacing T9 with the Frost rewards, but Triumph rewards?
Dbodinem Jun 23rd 2010 3:51PM
*So, since there
lol
Aloix Jun 23rd 2010 3:55PM
Wear 2t9 and 2t10 until you get your 4t10.
Aloix Jun 23rd 2010 3:58PM
But that wasn't your question, sorry. Um, I don't remember how I did it exactly, but I *think* that the 4pc t9 (at badge level, if you have ToGC 25 man tokens it will be different of course) is lackluster enough that you're fine just keeping the 2t9 and getting a non-tier triumph piece or two.
William Jun 28th 2010 1:29PM
What about gear that you can get from WG?
boatarific Jun 23rd 2010 3:54PM
For frost rewards:
If you do not need the expertise, then Recovered Scarlet Onslaught Cape is better than Might of the Ocean Serpent.
If you do not need the hit, then Vengeful Noose is better than Malevolent Girdle.
Yes, they may look like rogue or cat items, but so do half of paladin's best in slot items.
Aloix Jun 23rd 2010 4:00PM
Same with the crafted leather boots (which I got crafted abt a month or so after the plate ones, d'oh)... but yeah that's not directly related to badge gear.
feniks9174 Jun 23rd 2010 4:37PM
I'm nearing Northrend on my Pally and I've started putting together a list of drops and crafted/emblem gear I want to get my hands on before I take her into ICC. Most of the options are pretty obvious, but the part that I can't figure out is trinkets. I'm told ArP gets better for Ret with T10, but I need to have something going into ICC well before I have enough Frost built up to get 2PT10 (I can't depend on VoA, Horde never has it on my server).
Needle Encrusted Scoprion seems pretty terrible for Ret and the Banner of Victory from ToC5 (for the same reason) looks very mild as well. The Mark of Supremacy from Triumph makes sense if I need the +Hit, but I doubt I'll be lacking enough in hit rating to justify carrying both Triumph Trinkets. So, assuming I can't afford Greatness (still 6.5K on my server) and don't have access to Death's Choice that leaves . . . what? An EoHeroism Trinket and Blue drops? That seems really silly to me at this point in the Expansion . . .
Is there something I'm forgetting or are good trinket choices just few and far between for pre-raid Ret?
LittleHamster Jun 24th 2010 4:24AM
No, do sartharion with 0 drake. It's very doable with random trade pugs. Fury of five flights drop from there.
Henrik Ibsen Jun 24th 2010 6:29PM
Victor's Call / Vengeance of the Forsaken from Faction Champions in ToC10 isn't too hard to get.
Or you could join an ICC25 run while still a little undergeared and ninja DBW like I did :D
Though it's not the best trinket out there, having the chance to see yourself as a ret bull with wings is worth all the yelling from the lootwhores who want you to give them the trink or buy it for, say, 8k gold from you.
Jadhira Jun 23rd 2010 8:43PM
Of all the trinkets outside raids, my best bet would be to go for DMC greatness. you may look at the individual cards instead of going to the complete set in the auction house. sometimes you can snatch one under 400G, and that would make your deck much cheaper on the long run.
Also, make a lowbie to look at the opposite faction auction house, for possible cheaper cards. You'll need a guildie to help you to trade money or the cards back from the neutral AH. I got my set for around 3000G this way. That trinket hopefully it would last you a lot more than the ones farmed from the heroics.
If you insist to farm a trinket in heroics, I suggest the banner in normal TOC.
my best guess of a farmed gear:
T9 triumph set.
get the triumph helmet and shoulders, also the ring.
farm the Ahune cloak, if not, the PVP Ilvl 264 has no arena rating, and is decent.
Trinket: get the triumph trinket mark of supremacy, it isn't ideal, but since getting that many PVP items you'll probably need the hit.
second trinket: DMCG would be the ideal pick. (expensive tough!)
bracers: I'll definitely chose the PVP ones. Much better than anything you can get in heroics. the crafted saronite swordbreakers are a bit better, but not by much.
Boots: best would be the 264 crafted. Another decent option would be the PVP ones (no arena rating needed)
neck: get the PVP one. (no arena rating)
Weapon: try to get tyrannical beheader from HPOS. getting the drop for the battered hilt would be ideal too.
ring: here the ring from PVP isn't ideal, the best pick would be to go for the lady's promise, from HHOR, but this ring isn't easily farmable.
Akshay Anand Jun 24th 2010 3:18AM
Apologies for the noobish comment/ question here ...
I haven't paid much attention to paladins in Wrath ... my very first toon in vanilla WoW was a ret paladin & I loved how the gear reflected the holy spellcaster/ melee DPS role. I hated the end-game "priest-in-plate" mentality which is why I never raided with him in TBC.
When I got round to playing my ret pally in Wrath, I was really saddened to see that he didn't need any spell casting gear ... it was really !@#$^*#$#%&*$# to have to roll against every DPS warrior & DK for the same gear. Is there any differentiation left? How do I tell if gear has been designed for paladins (apart from a class-specific tag)?
whalt Jun 25th 2010 9:45AM
Pallies don't need any spell power on plate thanks to the talent Sheath of Light, it turns 30% of your attack power into Spell Power. In fact, you will not find any DPS Plate with Spell Power or Intellect on it in Northred, outside of perhaps a random green "of the Gorilla" item with Intellect and Strength. Rets then share their gear with Warriors and DK's but get comparatively little from all the Armor Pen found on most plate gear. So, if at all possible you want to find DPS plate with Strenght, Stamina, and some combination of Hit, Expertise, Crit, or Haste. That said, Armor Pen is not worthless, but it is on par or slightly below Haste in benefit for a Paladin, until very High gear levels. So do not turn down plate items with Armor pen because in many cases it can be difficult to find more "Ret Friendly" items. Rogue leather, as long as it doesn't have armor pen on it, and in some cases even when it does, can also be suprisingly good for Rets, in fact many Ret Best in Slot items from ICC are rogue leather items.
Vroom Jun 25th 2010 2:58PM
Just started gearing my ret paladin today, perfect timing on this article!