Scattered Shots: Pet tanking
Welcome to Scattered Shots, written by Frostheim of Warcraft Hunters Union and the Hunting Party Podcast. Each week, Frostheim uses logic and science (mixed with a few mugs of Dwarven Stout) to look deep into the hunter class. Got hunter questions? Feel free to email Frostheim.
As hunters, we spend a lot of our down time engaged in awesomeness. On long weekends, we strip down and roll around in awesomesauce; we drink it and bathe in it it and steep ourselves in the awesome until we reek of it, until we radiate awesome so strongly that it even starts to rub off on those around us. Pet tanking is yet another example of this principle in action.
Grandpappy Frostheim always used to say, "If you want a job done right, do it yourself. But if you're getting a good drunk on and good enough is good enough, send your pet to do it."
With the right pet, the right talents, a bit of gear and a pinch of forethought, our pets can make surprisingly formidable tanks. Our pets can easily tank, for example, any dungeon and any heroic in the game. We can even tank raid bosses. And I'm not talking about just the easy stuff in Naxx, either. We can tank a goodly number of ICC bosses including, as you can see in the video above, Sindragosa (and we don't even need another tank to help out in Sindragosa phase 3, either). So join me after the cut and learn how!
Pet tanks versus player tanks
While there is a shocking amount of content that pets can successfully tank, the fact is that life is easier with an actual player tank. A well-geared and skilled player tank will out-perform a pet tank almost every time. Pets have several disadvantages, including:
- Pet have significantly less health.
- Pets have far less avoidance.
- Pets cannot generate as much threat as a properly geared player tank.
- Pets have a very long cooldown and somewhat finicky taunt, making tank-swapping fights difficult to impossible.
- Pets enjoy a 90% damage reduction to all forms of AoE damage, through Avoidance.
- Pets gain +50% effect from all heals, though Spirit Bond and Blood of the Rhino.
- Some global effects do not affect pets, including the ICC debuff that reduces dodge by 20%.
- Being controlled by hunters, pets are 175% more awesome.
Finally, it should go without saying that a skilled pet tanker is far better than a foolishly ignorant and stubborn idiot tank. If that silly DK tank isn't even crit-immune, you're probably better off having your pet take care of the heroic (assuming you are prepared to do so).
The right pet for the job
Without question, you need to use a tenacity pet for serious pet tanking, and any tenacity pet is capable of performing the job. However, there are a couple of pets that make it to the top of the list.
- Turtles with their Shell Shield special are excellent tanks and the best at damage reduction. Turtles are good if you're expecting spike damage or healing blackouts; however, their threat generation will be a bit lower.
- Crocolisks with Bad Attitude are the highest threat pet tanks and are the most common pet tanking choice. Best of all, their threat generation is both single-target and AoE, making them the only real choice for packs of mobs.
- Worms are also a good choice, with single-target threat generation very close to that of the crocolisk and providing the major armor debuff through Acid Spit. Worms are a good route to go if you don't otherwise have the major armor debuff.
- Bears are inferior to crocs, alas. The bear's special attack doesn't do any more damage than the default attack, so it's just a waste of focus that doesn't increase single-target threat. The only advantage is that it's a frontal AoE, and the croc is a 360-degree AoE plus a single-target threat increase.
I recommend something close to the following 59/12/0 talent build for pet tanking.

Pet talent build
You will want to spec your tenacity pet with the following pet build.

Pet tanking stats
When looking at stats for pet tanking, you have three goals:
- Make your pet uncrittable.
- Get your pet as much health as possible.
- Make your pet generate as much threat at possible.
Now that your pet is crit-immune, your next task is to be at the hit cap. This is vitally important for your threat generation. Keep in mind that if you're at the hit cap, then your pet will be hit-capped and expertise-capped. This means that your pet cannot be dodged or parried, in addition to never missing. That can add up to more than a 20% DPS increase for your pet when tanking! You will need to get 263 hit rating. You cannot use Focused Aim to reach the hit cap -- while the hit all transfers to your pet, for some reason the expertise doesn't translate as fully as it should. So get all of your hit through hit rating on gear. Go buy Mark of Supremacy if you're struggling with hit.
Once you have 132 resilience and are at the hit cap, you're then interested stacking attack power and stamina. AP gives your pet better threat generation, and stamina gives it survivability. In general this means you'll either be wearing lots of PvP gear gemmed for AP, or lots of raid gear gemmed with stamina. You need to balance these two stats -- don't go overboard to either side. If you're pet-tanking ICC, you can actually go easy on the stamina since the raid buff is so big now.
You should seriously considering wearing two pieces of your tier 7 gear for the +5% pet damage bonus.
Pet tanking tips
When you're first stretching your pet tanking legs, you'll be starting out in heroics. Strongly encourage your group to hold off on DPS for a few seconds after pulling -- pets do not build up threat as quickly as player tanks, especially on packs. Make sure to brief your group on the liabilities and advantages of the pet tank.
Ideally, you want to start every pull with all your main cooldowns available: Misdirection is a must, and your croc's Bad Attitude is likewise vital. In a perfect world, you will also want your Beastial Wrath available, but it's not vital for every pull. You'll generally want to start a pull with MD, big red pet and in Aspect of the Beast. You'll have to get used to swapping from target to target, as your pet's AoEs alone are not going to be enough.
Over time, you'll develop a much greater appreciation for the frustrations that tanks face on a daily basis.
When it comes to healing, the bonus to healing your pet receives means it prefers small, fast heals over slow, big heals. The big heals, once magnified by your pet, will usually just be overhealing. HoTs are fantastic for pets. Most of the time you will not need to use Mend Pet -- the healing of Mend Pet is nothing compared to what the healers will be putting out. But if your pet is getting dangerously low, you definitely want to hit Cower to give your healers some breathing room. A favorite tactic of pet tankers is to macro Mend Pet and Cower together under the logic that if you need one, you probably want the other as well.
See 'em in action
If you're looking for more pet tanking information, you can check out Big Red Rhino, a hunter blog specializing in pet tanking, and Arthemystia's posts at Warcraft Hunters Union, the hunter who did the world first Sindragosa pet tank above.
For videos of pet tanking in action, I'd suggest the following:
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
shadowhowl1900 Jun 28th 2010 8:08PM
wow....o.O
but for some reason, it makes me think of this was done on private servers.
Codie Jun 28th 2010 8:14PM
....
so, you think that Frost would link you to a video done on a private server?
don't be jealous of his looks.
Frostheim Jun 28th 2010 8:48PM
Nope, we did this on Icecrown. Arth transferred over for a week to do it with my raid group since his wouldn't let him.
Sindragosa is actually easier to pet tank than with a standard tank. They don't get the stacks of increased damage, and basically ignore the breath weapon, room aoe, etc. Cakewalk for the healers to heal a pet tank on sindi.
Squatstopee Jun 28th 2010 11:22PM
Bet his guild feels foolish losing a world first! Also...
/tar Frost /point /laugh
Pakisunny360 Jun 28th 2010 11:43PM
SO WHAT UR TELLING ME IS THAT MY WARRIOR IS JUST A LITTLE BETTER TANK THEN A ANIMAL, WTD WTF MAN, THATS IT FUCK MY WARRIOR, GOING TO MAKE A HUNTER.
ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT SERVER I SHOULD JOIN, I WANNA BE HORDE TROLL. IMA LEAVE MY SERVER PICK TO U GUYS. IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST EVEN, AND BE EASTERN OR CST.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
Prances in Underpantss Jun 29th 2010 8:33AM
@ Pakisunny360
"Finally, it should go without saying that a skilled pet tanker is far better than a foolishly ignorant and stubborn idiot tank."
You prove his point
kdeselms Jun 29th 2010 6:44PM
Yes, we tanks KNOW you hunters think your pets are tanks...because every instance we zone into with a hunter, they invariably leave growl on and pull the instance for us. Most consistently annoying members of any 5 man, IMO.
Elazul Jun 28th 2010 8:29PM
You completely forgot about Gorillas!
Hih Jun 28th 2010 8:32PM
Because the only bonus gorillas have is an interrupt on a 30 second cooldown. Which isn't gonna cut it for anything that requires frequent interrupts, like Deathwhisper.
Elazul Jun 29th 2010 3:45AM
Except of course you forget that "Bubbles" one of the most famous Pet tanks, and a pet that tanked some Ulduar bosses, was a gorilla.
their threat generation is pretty damn good.
Read up on big red Rhino.
Frostheim Jun 28th 2010 9:01PM
Yeah, gorillas just are not a top choice for a tank. As I said, any tenacity can do the job, but if you want the best possible choice, you're stuck with one of those I listed.
Hih Jun 28th 2010 10:33PM
El, was that before or after they gave every tenacity pet http://www.wowhead.com/spell=63900 because Gorillas used to be the best pet, but then they got hit hard by the relative nerf bat.
MusedMoose Jun 28th 2010 8:39PM
Thank you for yet another example of why hunters are as awesome as they are. Or rather, thanks for reminding everyone in case they forgot why hunters are as awesome as they are. *grin* Can't wait to try this sort of thing in Cataclysm - this and dungeon-soloing are big parts of why I want to play a hunter again from the start.
...that and macroing together something that takes off my chest armor and does a /flex, just to mess with a friend of mine. ^_^
Shanor Jun 28th 2010 8:43PM
That was awesome, 5 stars! Was that your pet frost? or one of your buddies? I saw your name pop up on the addon, and it must have been awesome to be there. =D
feniks9174 Jun 28th 2010 9:09PM
Yeah . . . Didn't Voidwalkers get nerfed into Oblivion after a warlock MT'd 25M OS3D?
Just saying . . .
Perc Jun 28th 2010 9:28PM
So you wish for the hunters to go through the same pain that we warlocks had to? It was a sad day for the warlock community when our voidwalkers got nerfed and I do not wish such a thing on our pet tanking brethren. I just hope that this opens blizzard's eyes about how fun and cool pet tanking is and no matter how hard they try we will always find a way to do it. Maybe, just maybe, our voidwalkers will return to their former glory.
On another note that video was crazy! I am sooooo going to send this to the hunter in my ICC10 man raid so we can try this!
Edge Jun 28th 2010 10:01PM
If they gave tanking back to Warlocks, they could also make a third by making the Earth Elemental tank for Shammy's, rather than being a "Shammy Tank", as everyone has wished for. That would be loads of fun. Come on give us some REAL fun specs Blizzard, underpowered , maybe, but fun is what is important.
feniks9174 Jun 29th 2010 12:14AM
@ Perc - Not at all what I meant. Pet tanking, warlock or otherwise, is precisely 4.862 kinds of awesome. I just know that the devs dont like it and our blueberries are now pretty worthless. All I'm saying is be careful . . .
kingoomieiii Jun 29th 2010 8:47AM
They nerfed voidwalkers when they simplified Sarth +3 back when it was hard. Actually made it easier.
If a turtle was simplifying H Lich King (instead of being one-shotted), you already would have seen a nerf.
Draelan Jun 28th 2010 9:14PM
That is awesome... And I thought I'd seen some pretty epic moments with Sindragosa already.
Makes me want to bring back my BM spec. I blew my guild leader's mind when I showed him your lvl 10 Hunter raid of one of the World Dragons. Time to make his head explode with this video! =D