[1.Local]: Gigantic
Reader comments -- ahh, yes, the juicy goodness following a meaty post. [1.Local] ducks past the swinging doors to see what readers have been chatting about in the back room over the past week.
Yes, I am just naming this column after Pixies songs so I can embed them and not even attempt a theme. Thank you for noticing. I do have a gigantic love for many of our comments, though. They are fun to read and the threads are gigantically entertaining. I also really like when a gigantically different viewpoint is presented for discussion.
My love for the new guild perks in Cataclysm is gigantic, and so is Cyanea's:
Pointless indeed. Turn the page for some more gigantically fun and/or interesting comments from the past week.This list is the reason why we couldn't have "guild talents" and why we get all of them instead.
Any hardcore PVE or PVP guild that doesn't have either the Honor point or the Hero point gain talent is not going to be competitive. A lot of more casual guilds could've easily picked them both up, but when you're in a hardcore guild striving for world/realm firsts or whatever the equivalent is for PVP you're going to go for the most effective point distribution, forcing players who do both (like me) or who are in a primarily PVE guild and mostly PVP and vice versa to leave their friends and find other guilds just to stay competitive.
All that whining about Guild Talents was pointless.
Biking through Azeroth
Some of us are Buff(ing) for BlizzCon. Saitenyo makes an inspiring suggestion for playing and working out at the same time.
WoW for free?I think this WoW-themed health column is kind of neat. As someone who is both an avid gamer, and fairly health-conscious, I can attest that there's no reason the two need to be mutually exclusive, even when your free time is limited.
Like you say in this article, there are a lot of ways to work around the cooking time issue: prepping larger meals once in a while so you can reheat leftovers for a quick meal later, making healthy snack packs, learning some quick and healthy recipes, etc.
However, I think a lot of people who are in my position end up stumped on the exercise issue. How do you motivate yourself to use your precious limited free time to exercise after a long day of work, when you'd really rather be using that time to do something fun like play WoW?
The answer is you do both at the same time!
While wracking my brain on how to motivate myself to exercise (I admittedly find it boring) I thought to myself, "Gee, if only I could find a way to motivate myself to exercise the way I'm motivated to play WoW." And then I figured out how to do just that.
Step 1: Buy a stationary bike. They're actually pretty affordable, and for me, it was a better option than buying a gym membership that I knew I'd never use.
Step 2: Buy a laptop caddy. Something like this.
That was the complicated part. I had to measure my stationary bike's dimensions and find a caddy that adjusted to fit comfortably over the bike while still leaving room to pedal.
Step 3: Set up the caddy over your stationary bike. Put your laptop on said caddy. Sit down, open WoW, start pedaling.
And there you have your very own WoW exercise machine! It's amazing how much easier it is to motivate yourself to exercise when you can also do something you consider fun at the same time. :)
That and you can tell people you lost 20 lbs playing WoW, which always evokes some amusing reactions. ;)
Tom Chilton (lead game designer) spoke about a
possible free future for WoW. Some excellent analysis was done in the comments, but I've featured just some of it here.Miggs: Would be nice to be free
snowleopard233: It depends on what we would get for free, if there would be still an optional subscription plan and what you would get for it, as well as whether or not they expanded the micro-transaction store. A lot of these "free" mmo's often turn into games where you get for little for free and then have to keep shelling out clams for run of the mill stuff like multiple characters, more than three character options, and leveling past the starter zones. Having no subscription fees also allows for an entire population of goldsellers and spammers to create accounts without having to even pay for a subscription, whereas currently they have to recreate ten-day trials or steal other people's accounts. It's a common problem on a lot of the free mmo's out there. Mabinogi is apparently plagued with this kind of thing.
Of course that's not to say that with careful grooming and a well-handled transition a "free" option could not be implemented. DDO has been handling it quite nicely. It's just that changing your subscription model complicates a great many facets of the game and can result in a decrease of quality as well as cost to the player.
Golis: Actually, Free would not be nice to those who like the quality of the game. In all seriousness, if you read what Chilton is saying here, he is talking about end of life conditions for the product.
Once they have stopped all real design work, server upgrades, technology enhancements and developers and technicians have moved on to other products, They will squeeze some last coinage out of the remaining players who have not moved on to "the next thing."
Want to solo Sargaras? For a simple transaction of $49.99 you will be given the Axe of Hellacious Mangling. Procs: One dead god every 5 hits.
The game will not be the dynamic universe we know now. Balance will be thrown out the window. Sure some people will pay for that playstyle, but those are the same people who look for godmode cheats before they get the box out of Wal-mart.
Racism is bad; cultural differences are good
Srobart provokes thought in the comments of the latest Drama Mamas:
Useful definitionWhile I am guessing that most of these racists are children or young teenagers who are just trying to get attention, I do see a bigger problem here. The problem is that everywhere we look we can find "racism". There are OBVIOUS signs of racism, like the racial slurs, which are COMPLETELY and TOTALLY uncalled for in both the game and society as a whole. However, there are other things that people get over-sensitive about, like the "white healer" thing. This is almost as absurd as the story out of Los Angeles last week when the NAACP made a big stink over the word "black hole" on a greeting card, and a city councilman did the same thing a few weeks before that, when one of his white colleagues said "the money seems to be disappearing down a black hole". People need to grow a bit thicker skin and realize that not everything is race-related just because it MAY sound that way.
As far as I'm concerned, all these cries of racism both in game and in society in general are actually doing more to keep the various races from getting along than anything else. It's to the point of insanity. If we cannot DISCUSS race in an honest manner, how can we ever solve the problems between the races? We can't! If a minority speaks about race, nobody bats an eye. If a white person speaks about race, it's automatically racist, even if the comment is positive, or is not meant to be slanderous. This is one of the biggest problems facing America today, and WoW is NOT immune.
There are differences between the races, that's a fact. We should be celebrating and embracing those differences instead of forcing them down into the depths of our brain. Each and every race has something they can provide to others. Until people realize that and they begin to address in a honest manner, there will be no end to malicious racism. That being said, I see VERY little actual malicious racism coming from the white community these days, unless it's from children who are trying to get attention or just be a pain in the rear. I can't even remember the last time I heard an adult say something blatantly racist to hurt the feelings of a minority.
As always, I believe "racism" is blown WAY out of proportion in the USA and in other countries around the world. If the lunacy continues, it will hurt race relations more than it will help it. Those people who say that "black hole" is racist are hurting the relationship between whites and blacks just as much, if not more than, anyone else. The same could be said of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who would be out of a job if they didn't promote strife between the races. We need to remove ALL of the people who drive a wedge between whites and blacks, whether that person is white OR black. Until we do, there will be no peace between majority and minority, of that I am CERTAIN.
For a lighter discussion, we move on to the definition of "real life" in this Breakfast Topic.
Pwnzoar: "Real life?" What are these strange words you are speaking?
Zenith: It means you play with your alt on the Earth realm, sadly almost everyone is human there and most npc's are removed. Heck, I don't even know where my class trainer is
Rylka: The good news is that, even though it is a high population server, there is very little down time. Though the quest helper can be a bit buggy ...
Interesting combination
In a recent queue, Michael Gray discussed the differences between forsaken and death knights: "Vampires and zombies are both undead, but they can do wildly different things. Same thing with the forsaken and the death knights." We'll end today's sampling with the concern this caused.
(cutaia): Oh crap...by that logic, you could end up with zombie vampires! (Please don't let that turn into a new genre...)
Galestrom: As long as they aren't rocking sparkly makeup, I'm okay with it.
jorath: So... Craving for brains and lust for blood? Talk about high maintenance.
Tyr: ALL HAIL THE ZOMPIRES!
A big, big love.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
devilsei Jul 4th 2010 4:11PM
Feh, still very much disagree with Cyn. Those talents referred only to the Low Tier points, not the higher tier. They offered absolutely zero advantages to any hardcore guild besides making it a little easier to gear up alts through earlier raids and heroics, and to get gear from earlier seasons.
Cyanea Jul 4th 2010 4:20PM
Maybe the Hero/Honor points wasn't the best example, but the argument still stands. There are some perks that are clearly beneficial to raiders and some that are clearly beneficial to PVPers. Forcing a guild to choose between one or the other is a little unfair to a few people: the guildies who don't do the guild's predominant activity and feel no benefit, the people who want to raid AND pvp and stay competitive in both (even if it's just gearing up the previous tier's stuff), and the GM/officers who have to decide who to please and who to piss off.
Sure...in your Ensidias of the world, there'll be no question of where the points would've been assigned, but for every Ensidia, there's dozens of smaller guilds to which there would've been nothing but drama.
MusedMoose Jul 4th 2010 4:29PM
Think about it this way: y'know how difficult it is to get people to agree on pizza toppings? The more people you have, the smaller chance there is of getting people to agree. Blizzard realized this and is effectively saying, "We're giving you all the possible topping combinations you could ever want, so nobody has to go hungry or feel like they're being left out." *grin*
I honestly don't see why people are complaining about the loss of guild talents. It's effectively saying that you want less abilities for your guild, just because you wanted to be able to pick and choose which ones you do or don't get. It makes no sense to me at all.
bleuchz Jul 4th 2010 5:15PM
Pizza Toppings you say? Ham, Bacon, Pineapple. End of discussion =D
Cyanea Jul 4th 2010 5:20PM
But taking ham gimps me in PVP!
Joseph Smith Jul 4th 2010 9:32PM
Pineapple is for newbs! Endgame players all eat sardines.
vazhkatsi Jul 4th 2010 11:37PM
i'm sorry, but arguing that you would rather have a the half of your cake with the bits you like the most instead of just having the whole cake is frankly insane.
Kag Jul 4th 2010 4:40PM
Pixies!!!
Sciarc Jul 4th 2010 4:54PM
Pixies + WoW!!! It makes me ecstatically happy when two of my most favorite, yet totally unrelated things in the world come together like this.
Paulio Jul 4th 2010 7:31PM
^ This. Unexpected goodness on a Sunday. Word to wow.com.
Verine Jul 4th 2010 8:38PM
I don't mean to put down the Pixies, so don't take it way, I just haven't heard a song of theirs that hits me. I was in college when they were in their prime (late80's early 90s) too.
U2, REM, Talking heads etc, there was always that one song that made me a fan of theirs even if earlier efforts didn't.
devilsei Jul 4th 2010 4:40PM
I could care less about the talent system really, but the fact it has taken 2-3yrs (if its true that they've been working on it for as long as they have) to go and decide "Lets not make drama, snip" seems odd to me.
People seem to just blow this out of proportions. There is 0 chance that the talents would of been so important that they'd gimp you in your chosen field. If you were in a raid guild and wanted to pvp seriously, you could, and you wouldn't be gimped doing it and vice versa.
To take the pizza analogy, these talents weren't the topping of the pizza, they were the cheapo side dishes you could get with it. You could have Little Ceasers Gladiator pizza or Hungry Patchwerks pizza, yet ordered your own 1$ side of raiding wings or player sauce.
devilsei Jul 4th 2010 4:41PM
bah, reply fail.
Cyanea Jul 4th 2010 4:43PM
The arguments against it still doesn't make any sense.
It's like someone was giving you all the little 1$ Little Ceasar's pizza you could want, and you complain and say "No! I only want to be limited to 10."
It's a game in development. Features get cut.
MusedMoose Jul 4th 2010 4:51PM
"People seem to just blow this out of proportions. There is 0 chance that the talents would of been so important that they'd gimp you in your chosen field. If you were in a raid guild and wanted to pvp seriously, you could, and you wouldn't be gimped doing it and vice versa."
I disagree. I've seen pages-long discussions over the placement of a single healing talent point, I've seen people use spreadsheets to squeeze out that last 0.05% more DPS, I've seen people debate one stat vs. another for tanking until they're blue in the face, figuratively speaking. Tiny differences add up, and they can make all the difference. As much as I'd like to think otherwise, WoW runs on math, and it's an unfortunate but undeniable truth that lacking a small boost can make the difference between a win and a loss.
Basically, Blizzard cut the choice of talents but kept in the benefits because they didn't want people leaving guilds because they felt the talents chosen didn't suit their playstyle. And that's a good thing.
Also: your attempt at keeping with the pizza analogy doesn't work. Toppings (like guild talents) affect everyone. Personal side dishes don't. :P
TR Jul 4th 2010 10:07PM
Agreed. It was an odd stand for them to take in a game where people already do similar things so they can get in with a group of people to get that high-end weapon/mount/achievement/gear while more casual players cannot. How many people get a shot at Quel'Delar or Shadowmourne for the similar reasons? It amounts to cherry picking arguments.
Al Jul 5th 2010 1:59AM
So rather than having things to work together towards as a guild, we get yet another solo rep grind? All because they didn't want people who disagreed with the Guild Leader/Officers up and leaving over it?
That'd be great, if people didn't /gquit at the drop of a hat over much more trivial matters. Since we're apparently not meant to care what Guild Leaders decide is the guild direction, does that mean we can start Communes instead and avoid being 'lorded' over?
Cyanea Jul 5th 2010 2:43AM
That "solo rep-grind" doesn't have anything to do with this guild perk system. The "rep grind" has to do with buying silly little things like extra tabards, and other vanity items. That's not connected (as far as all the information we've been given says) to the guild perk system at all. It's just there to give a little extra reward to people who've spent long periods of time in guilds, if that's your thing. And I doubt rep grinding for that is going to be anything like rep grinding for the Sons of Hodir. Who are you going to turn the dailies in to? Your GM? It's probably going to be related to the Guild XP thing in that you do stuff with your guild (raids, bgs, etc), you get guild XP and rep.
Danterius Jul 4th 2010 4:47PM
Very much agree with Srobart on the race issue, until he got to the point where he said racism is blown out of proportion in other countries. In the US, yes, I agree that racism is often blown out of proportion. I live in the southeast, the heart of past slavery and blatant racism, but to say that racism is still rampant here would be nothing more than hyperbole. I'm not saying that racism is nonexistent. It is still alive and well, and will be for ages, but it is indeed often blown way out of proportion.
The same, however, cannot be said to be true of other countries; and this is where I disagree with Srobart. Outside of the US, racism is still a problem that must be dealt with on a daily basis. As somebody born and raised in Eastern Europe, Ukraine to be exact, I can vouch for that. The vast majority of the population still harbors racism to this day. This racism is not out of hatred, but rather out of ignorance. For example, I knew, and still know, numerous individuals that legitimately believe that blacks have a lesser capacity for intelligence than whites. This racism is not indigenous to only Eastern Europe either. It thrives in the developed countries of Western Europe also; and you can bet it lives in Asia, Africa, and South America as well.
The point is, we in the US here have it good concerning racism. I completely agree with Srobart on his stance of racism in this country. But as for the rest of the world? No, it’s still a problem that must be dealt with.
Kurash Jul 4th 2010 5:26PM
Well said. I'd add, though, that not all racism consists of the obvious slur-flinging that is easy to spot. There are other, more subtle forms that do indeed exist world-wide -- including here in the U.S.
This can often be unconscious, too, manifested in such fashions as similar crimes being punished more harshly for one group, or funding for education being distributed in racially unbalanced ways. The people involved likely aren't intentionally treating one group different than another, but their own feelings are still influencing their decisions.
These types of examples are much more difficult to spot, but no less damaging. Or at least I would argue so.