Maybe the Hero/Honor points wasn't the best example, but the argument still stands. There are some perks that are clearly beneficial to raiders and some that are clearly beneficial to PVPers. Forcing a guild to choose between one or the other is a little unfair to a few people: the guildies who don't do the guild's predominant activity and feel no benefit, the people who want to raid AND pvp and stay competitive in both (even if it's just gearing up the previous tier's stuff), and the GM/officers who have to decide who to please and who to piss off.

Sure...in your Ensidias of the world, there'll be no question of where the points would've been assigned, but for every Ensidia, there's dozens of smaller guilds to which there would've been nothing but drama.

Think about it this way: y'know how difficult it is to get people to agree on pizza toppings? The more people you have, the smaller chance there is of getting people to agree. Blizzard realized this and is effectively saying, "We're giving you all the possible topping combinations you could ever want, so nobody has to go hungry or feel like they're being left out." *grin*

I honestly don't see why people are complaining about the loss of guild talents. It's effectively saying that you want less abilities for your guild, just because you wanted to be able to pick and choose which ones you do or don't get. It makes no sense to me at all.

Pizza Toppings you say? Ham, Bacon, Pineapple. End of discussion =D

But taking ham gimps me in PVP!

Pineapple is for newbs! Endgame players all eat sardines.

i'm sorry, but arguing that you would rather have a the half of your cake with the bits you like the most instead of just having the whole cake is frankly insane.