Blood Sport: Gearing up for PvP
Want to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women? Blood Sport investigates the entirety of all things arena for gladiators and challengers alike. C. Christian Moore, multiple rank 1 gladiator, examines the latest arena strategy, trends, compositions and more in WoW.com's arena column.
Listening Music: One of Sinatra's best, My Way. I was going to choose a lesser-known Sinatra piece, but figured this one would be best for people who aren't huge fans.
Last Week: We talked about why arenas might be awesome in Cataclysm. I'm stoked to see what Blizzard has for us -- and that was before the talent change got my whistle wet.
This Week: I get a lot of common questions -- one of them concerns how to gear up for arena (or gladiator, etc). Cataclysm is still a while off, and now is as good a time as any to start PvPing. If nothing else, PvP gear is some of the best leveling gear around. The mix of offensive stats plus massive resilience gives you little downtime.
Wintergrasp
Do Wintergrasp every time it's available. Wintergrasp tokens can be exchanged for honor if you aren't going to use the gear that the tokens can buy. Several quests award lots of honor, as well; make sure to do them each time they become available.
If you are on a server where your faction is severely outnumbered, take the time to craft a PvP spec that can take advantage of Tenacity. For instance, if you are a warlock, you might want to consider a spec which uses Metamorphosis. I've heard of warlocks mashing Demon Charge into Immolation Aura, killing off 20+ players of the enemy faction and making 3,000ish honor in the matter of 10 to 15 seconds. Seriously, I've seen screenshots.
Vault of Archavon
Try to run both VoA 10 and VoA 25 every week -- and make sure there aren't too many of your class inside! Also, try to purchase your legs and hands on your main set last (just in case you get a sweet pair of S7 or S8 pants/gloves). You don't want to waste honor that you spent in battlegrounds on a piece of gear you can easily get from a raid boss.
Battlegrounds
BGs are a necessary evil to the Wrath PvPer. In Cataclysm, we'll see an influx of PvPers who enjoy doing BGs -- and perhaps many of us who have grown bored with them will be interested in WoW PvP again.
Try to form premades with other top PvPers from your server whenever possible; just don't go overboard on the amount you bring. Right now, the system seems to pair you up against other premades if you bring half (or more than half) of whatever amount of players the battleground can maximally hold.
For instance, if you're entering a Warsong Gulch (10v10), be sure to only bring three other players so you don't get stuck in a long queue. As long as you only have four people in your party, you should be paired up against other non-premades, which will put you at a distinct advantage. If you can get up to seven people, try queuing for Arathi Basin, Eye of the Storm or Strand of the Ancients.
Queuing randomly will also net you lots of additional honor, and you should queue randomly whenever you don't have a premade on hand.
Heroics
Alternatively, if you don't like grinding BGs but you do have a fantastic raiding guild, you might want to hit up some buddies and do chain heroics. Even if you aren't a hardcore raider, doing a few heroics can break up the monotony of battleground after battleground.
I haven't personally done the heroic grind for PvP gear, but apparently it can be fairly easy if you're with a good group. My friends have chain run every single heroic in a day by taking a ICC-25 geared tank and a lot of AoE DPS.
Raids
Raiding is most important for weapons, as good PvP weapons aren't found anywhere other than the higher tiers of arena play. Try to get a nice ICC-10 or ICC-25 weapon to hold you over until you can get an amazing PvP weapon.
The best PvP trinkets generally come from raiding as well. Try to get a variety of trinkets you might want to try out in PvP -- that is, after you get your Medallion of the Alliance/Horde.
Arena
Make sure you meet all the requirements to get points every week! Even if you only get 200 points a week, if you're gearing up for four weeks by just doing battlegrounds, heroics, raids and Wintergrasp, those 800 arena points are going to come in handy when you start ascending the ladders.
You don't have to be exceptionally successful while you're just gearing up. Just shoot for a goal, attain it, set another goal and keep moving. Set your goals low at first; it'll help your confidence when you try to attain the next goal.
Dual spec for PvP
Unless your raiding guild requires two specs from you, try to use a secondary spec as a PvP spec. It will allow you to become better with your class and will also give you more honor per hour (sometimes drastically so).
Have fun
The most important aspect in all of this is to have a blast. If you're not enjoying gearing up, just take a break and go do something else. Come back to it when you want to own some enemies. Sure, getting gladiator is awesome and everything, and that might be your destination when you set out to gear up -- just make sure you enjoy the journey.
Other tips
- The Medallion of the Horde/Alliance is the most important piece of PvP gear you can attain (unless you're human). Get it first; the effect is invaluable. Battlemaster trinkets are also good, but spending honor or badges on other pieces of PvP gear is considered more efficient.
- Upgrade your worst pieces of gear first. If you have all blue gear except for your green ring, shoot to replace the ring first.
- Get your legs/hands and battlemaster trinkets last, unless any one of them is an enormous upgrade compared to a measly one.
- The furious main set is usually a very good investment from triumph badges or from honor.
- The Wrathful neck, back, wrist and ring don't require personal rating. The Wrathful belt and boots only require a 1,400 rating.
- Weapons are difficult to come by. The easiest route to a good weapon is usually raiding Icecrown. Heroic weapons are also fine to use for the lower ratings, but you'll want to upgrade your weapon fairly quickly to advance to more easily advance to higher ratings.
- The Icecrown reputation ring (Ashen Verdict) is extremely good -- look into using it and a Wrathful ring instead of two PvP rings (it might save you some time grinding honor or badges).
Want to ascend the arena ladders faster than a fireman playing Donkey Kong? Check out WoW.com's articles on arena, successful arena PvPers, PvP, and our arena column, Blood Sport.Filed under: PvP, Blood Sport (Arena PvP)






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
FireMaster Jul 12th 2010 3:38PM
The Northern Kings version of "My Way" is amazing *-*(Althrough the Sinatra's one is very good...)
Mike Jul 12th 2010 3:15PM
Actually the Wrathful Belt is 1300 rating :)
Exodus Jul 12th 2010 3:23PM
The Call to Arms weekends are also great for getting loads of honor, even while leveling. Last character I leveled, my Dk had 5 pieces of endgame pvp gear by the time I hit 80.
Highstrung Jul 12th 2010 3:26PM
I personally stopped caring if the article was good or bad after the Conan opening. You, sir, are awarded today's epic win badge.
David Jul 12th 2010 3:28PM
I agree with call to arms. I had 4/5 of the PVP mage set when I hit 80, which is also perfect for hitting random heroics as the spell power on the equipment is the same as the spell power on the items you earn from badges.
Derrek Jul 12th 2010 4:05PM
"Seriously, I've seen screenshots."
You wouldn't happen to have a link to those screenshots on hand, would you? Better yet, a video? If it's awesome enough I just might try me some Demo pvp...
Matthew Jul 12th 2010 4:32PM
I recently had the following experience:
I have a disc priest in full relentless (except the wrath stuff that requires no rating).
Priest pants dropped in voa, wrathful satin.
Me and another priest rolled. I lost.
I whispered him saying 'I know you won fair and square - please consider giving them to me? I pvp ALOT and its the only thing that I need for upgrade (wrathful gear)'. He said 'I know what you mean, I hate when people don't use pvp gear. I'M STARTING A SHADOW SET SO I WILL KEEP THEM'.
I thanked him for considering it, and ended the conversation.
[note to readers, 2 months ago I was the new-to-pvp on my shaman and gave a relentless my wrath leggings since I felt they did deserve it more than me. Also, note, that shaman was not nearly as tactful as me and was being nasty. It was because I am a fair and good person and put myself in his shoes that I gave them to him - not because he was being civi.]
What is the community's stance on this? Should he be allowed to roll? (I think he should have) Should he have passed to me (it would have been nice, no doubt, but is that a should?) Should I have not asked for them? (I think its fair to ask) Should I just get over this ? Insights welcome.
Thanks all!
Matthew Jul 12th 2010 4:34PM
PS, I use a combo satin / moon set (ie, 2 different sets) for more resil. 2x2 set bonus. Crits are my friend, and have the spirit so I don't go OOM. Also open to suggestions on how to gear for disc arena from those in the know!
Grovinofdarkhour Jul 12th 2010 5:18PM
Allowed to roll?
I've seen this issue come up before, and for some reason it rarely seems to end well. I've seen lootmasters ask all of the appropriate class to link their current PVP piece that would be replaced; but which way do you go from there? Is it more "correct" to give the item to the person for whom it is a bigger upgrade, or the person whose gear shows that they PVP a lot more? Same goes for if you ask how many honorable kills, or link achievements, etc.
My own take is that whatever criteria is customary on your server for determining a player's "right to roll" under normal raiding conditions should be used, and not be further complicated by investigation into PVP "worthiness" or anything similar. It just prevents a lot of headaches.
Should have passed?
Always up to the winner. "Should" is a bad word here; kindness is always appreciated but never to be expected or mandatory. No one should get a bad rap for not passing something if they won the roll, provided it was appropriate for them to roll on the item.
Should have not asked?
Nothing wrong with asking; the worst they can do is say no, right? But I would have offered something for them. Couple hundred gold, some gems/crafting mats, etc. just to make it worth his while. It's his item; trade him something he'll get reasonable value from.
On the other hand I've known of individuals who, in seemingly every single raid, pester someone to whom they lost a roll, under the Anything Goes premise - "if I can convince him to hand them over, through begging, coercion, bribery, intimidation, or anything else- then I win". Nobody likes that guy. Don't be that guy. :)
Logan Jul 12th 2010 6:00PM
Well Matt, I think it's the same concept with spec gearing. If you get a piece of loot and one person wants it for the spec their using currently and the other wants to start a new set or for their offspec, the person using the current spec should get the piece appropriate.
You needed it for your current spec, and he needed to start one. You should have gotten that piece over him, regardless of the role.. You needed it right away, not him.
Matthew Jul 12th 2010 8:31PM
I have decided to be the organizer of voa 25's with a loot system that treats pvp gear as important, as opposed to the way my server tends to treat it 'oh, pvp gear, roll if you have a class'.
This way, frankly, I don't have to convince PvE people that pvp gear shouldn't go to 'whoever'. Well, not the wrathful stuff.
Grovinofdarkhour Jul 13th 2010 10:21AM
I guess Logan's got a valid point. If they do needs & greeds, and need rolls are restricted to main spec main set (the way our runs usually are), and your main spec/set are PVP (logically you wouldn't be wearing your full PVP set in a raid, but you should still be able to claim it as your primary set), then you would be allowed to roll need on it, and the other guy would only be allowed to roll greed on it.
Cyanea Jul 12th 2010 4:44PM
I wouldn't recommend forgoing BGs entirely in place of the Heroic grind. BGs give you ample experience and practice at PVP. Sure, they're different animals than Arenas, but they're still very good practice for the basics.
Tarv Jul 12th 2010 5:04PM
I haven't read the article yet, but I just have to say, thank you for that great intro video. It's been a long while since I've heard some good Sinatra, it really made my day just that much better.
Tarv Jul 12th 2010 5:23PM
And now that I've read the article, I'll be sure to keep on the lookout for warlocks with Tenacity in Wintergrasp. The Alliance on my server still have less than 100 successful defenses, so they never have many players, and one of the big Alliance PvP guilds always brings a few people. It's usually 40 Horde versus Alliance with 12 stacks or so of Tenacity. We still win constantly, but their moves HURT.
Artificial Jul 12th 2010 5:14PM
Hey, this new Sinatra guy sounds cool... great voice. He should do some vocal trance tracks. ;)
nick2k22 Jul 12th 2010 5:20PM
Priests are OP. HAHAHA just kidding. Shamans are.
gamerunknown Jul 12th 2010 6:50PM
I was wondering if it was worth replacing Platinum Disks of Swiftness with either Battlemaster's Vivacity or Corroded Skeleton Key as a human disc priest. I'm still sometimes blown up (warrior/DK or RMP with good timing), so would like the additional survivability to an extent. I've macro'd my trinket slot to mana burn and penance (figure I need the haste in either situation, mass dispel and mana burn also have PI), but I'm usually CC'd as soon as I use it. My other trinket is a solace of the defeated.
Torqueo Jul 13th 2010 12:06AM
Sinatra, Thumbs up =)
Gimmlette Jul 13th 2010 11:15AM
"Upgrade your worst pieces of gear first. If you have all blue gear except for your green ring, shoot to replace the ring first."
I'm going to use this for all people in the guild who are looking at getting the best boots/back/gloves whatever while they are still running around in an i219 piece.