Totem Talk: The elemental talent tree revamp

So unless you live under a rock somewhere or are completely obsessed by all the Real ID drama recently (huzzah for the final outcome!), you've heard that the talent trees and mastery system are being completely revamped. (Would you like to know more?) What will the changes for our beloved elemental spec be? (Or in a topic-based-on-a-song version, Should I Stay or Should I Go?) Looking at the current Cataclysm preview/beta information, there are 26 talents and over 11 tiers, comprising 76 talent points. If we assume that there will be two or three talents per level, we're looking at 13 to 19 talents overall, with at least 31 points. Exactly how the secondary tree stuff will work is a guess at this stage.
Starting point: 26 talents, 76 points
First off, all the percentage bonus talents will probably get removed. Say goodbye to Convection, Concussion, Call of Flame, Elemental Warding, Shamanism and Acute Overload. The only "real" flat bonuses in the bunch are Convection and Concussion, at 10% mana cost reduction and 5% damage bonus respectively. Both of them are mainly point soak talents, so they'll go. Call of Flame is a limited flat bonus, so using the same logic, it'll go too. Elemental Warding, however, is an interesting one. It'll probably go -- but it might not, either. Personally, I hope it stays because I like taking 10% less damage.
Shamanism, on the other hand, is one of those "need to put talent in to fix elemental DPS so it is OK compared to everyone else" talents. It makes sense if they're shrinking the talent trees down from 11 tiers to seven that things like these would go, to end up being baked in to the tree mastery itself (or even not required at all). This is also where one of the elemental tree bonuses would be used to adjust overall DPS. Acute Overload, on the other hand, is the replacement for Lightning Overload itself and is designed to increase the overload damage. It's another flat bonus talent, and seems like another likely candidate to be removed.
Current count: 21 talents (lost 5), 55 points (lost 21)
Next, they'll probably drop out some of the odd talents from the tree, such as Elemental Devastation and Reverberation. Devastation is one of the talents in the tree that hasn't been touched in a long time, if ever. Since Blizzard plans on locking you into a single tree until you hit 70, it doesn't strike me that they'll leave a talent in the tree that isn't going to be used by any elemental shaman. Reverberation suffers the same fate, being an expensive and impractical talent (for elemental, anyway), although I think it may be used in some PvP builds.
Current count: 19 talents (lost 7), 47 points (lost 29)
We know that Thunderstorm is going, as it will become a skill you get at level 10 when you chose elemental. (Why would you chose anything else?) Since we have so few talented abilities, it is going to be interesting to see what else gets put in there. Eye of the Storm will most likely also go, due to reviews on how spell pushback works (again), and since we will be stacking Intellect, Unrelenting Storm will have to go (predicting a regen-while-casting talent).
Current count: 16 talents (lost 10), 40 points (lost 36)
By now, the tree will be a shadow of its former self, but in a better position to be used as a seven-tier tree. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if we not only lose the talents listed above, but also some of the remaining ones, too. Of course, these would be replaced by "new, improved, and exciting" talents, as I think Blizzard is working towards more active talents than passive ones. It's just a question of how long it will be until we see them.
Filed under: Shaman, (Shaman) Totem Talk, Cataclysm






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Mandacaru Jul 14th 2010 2:02AM
welcome to WoW.com!
Crimson Jul 14th 2010 1:45AM
Welcome fellow shaman! As an enhancement main, I promise not to roll on spell mail ;)
MusedMoose Jul 13th 2010 9:09PM
Just wanted to say Welcome!, and congrats on your first column on WoW.com. DING!
Also, I've never played a shaman past 8th level, but I'm going to roll a dwarf shaman once Cataclysm hits, and I've been trying to decide between Elemental and Enhancement for my leveling spec, since I plan to take Restoration as my other one. After reading this and imagining the fun of having Thunderstorm at 10, I'm now leaning Elemental. Dual-wielding is all well and good, but shocking the **** out of someone and knocking them back, even while I'm stunned? Yeah. Sign me up.
icepyro Jul 13th 2010 9:41PM
Don't forget that one of the goals mentioned before also is that Resto and elemental will be sharing gear itemization. Unlike Enhancement which will likely get rolled with hunters. So outside of tier, you will be carrying less gear as ele/resto than if you were enh/resto.
Of course, all that is moot because ele is teh best spec anyways. Simple, yet versatile. Win.
... and now you have me considering how funny it will be to see a dwarf in a fowl mood being charged by thunderstorm and tossing lightning and fire around. I may have to roll one.
Oh and welcome to wow.com, Blink! I can't wait to read more about my fav spec on my fav site.
MusedMoose Jul 13th 2010 10:43PM
@ icepyro -
That's great news, thanks! I've never been too happy with carrying around extra gear, so it'll be awesome to be able to heal and hurt without having to change my clothes. *grin*
And yeah, dwarven shamans are going to rock like crazy. Dwarves are pretty much my favorite of the standard fantasy races, so it'll be great to be a short, stout little ball of lightning and fire and pain and beer.
Pat Jul 14th 2010 1:01AM
Elemental is fun and I love the spec, But if Enh keep the Ghost wolf talent as is I'd definatly stick with Enh until you grab a mount. Depends how it all works out I suppose. Thunderstorm will be fun early on though.
Can't wait to race change my Space goat into Dwarf.
Mike Jul 13th 2010 9:10PM
Thank you for the wonderful ele shaman article. I don't feel so alone now!
krusty_burger Jul 13th 2010 9:10PM
this is probably exactly what the tree will look like in the new version. all those % increases get folded into the tree bonus. there's no danger in being OP: 5% more damage on a lightning bolt at level 10 is not that much.
this is a -genius- idea and i hope for blizz's sake that all the trees are as easy to gut as ele shaman.
krusty_burger Jul 13th 2010 9:10PM
oh, and welcome! :)
Mike Jul 13th 2010 9:18PM
I would say that's about exactly what the actual tree will look like, with the addition of a new 31-point talent to make a total of 41 points, which I believe they've stated is the intention.
Boreddruid Jul 13th 2010 9:23PM
Thunderstorm as a level 10 skill? Knew I should've waited to level my shaman.
Rajinnu Jul 13th 2010 9:27PM
From one elemental shaman to another, welcome to wow.com.
I hope they dump a heap of our talents and give us something decent. Thundershock at 10 is gonna be nice as I will be rolling my 4th shaman and first ally one (dwarf) in cata!
prenden2 Jul 13th 2010 9:42PM
Welcome to WoW.com!
Any thoughts on your obligatory WoW.com staffer arch-nemesis? I suggest Dawn Moore; those high-and-mighty priests need to be taken down a peg or two!
Brett Jul 13th 2010 10:17PM
Fox and Dawn are already nemesis...es... I say take on Tyler!!
feniks9174 Jul 13th 2010 10:30PM
I vote Holy Paladins . . . always rolling on Mail. Pshh . . .
Matt Sampson Jul 13th 2010 11:56PM
I plan on de-stabilising the "top caster" rivalry between Mages and Locks, because Elemental is clearly superior to both.
foodlegs Jul 14th 2010 3:13PM
i like your attitude matt, show mages and warlocks what's up for all of us please
RedMosquito Jul 13th 2010 9:44PM
Welcome! And it looks like it won't take much longer for us to find out how well your predictions went. =)
Hoof Jul 14th 2010 9:18AM
LOL, his predictions look awful so far. Yes it's beta, blah blah, subject to change, blah blah. Still, Shaman are one of the farthest along classes so far in the beta when it comes to talent trees (we've been the example case for all blue comments).
Overall I'd say I'm pretty content with the current talents. I feel I can spec both elemental and resto without wasting points. Hopefully we get a few more interesting talents though. As it stands now, I can't imagine how any elemental shaman or any resto shaman would be different from one another come end game. There are clearly "good" talents and "not good" talents.
Karl Jul 13th 2010 9:53PM
I used to read all your posts on EJ, if you were the same Binkenstein there. Anyway, great article - bold predictions backed up by some nice insight into the elemental tree. Looking forward to more posts.