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7-15-2010 @ 6:30PM
I'm surprised no discussion regarding telleric (sp?) currents or the shock -> heal boost one... With all the discussion re: mana being a tight commodity - seems like we got a lot of ways to stretch our blue bar out...
7-15-2010 @ 6:34PM
Those will be discussed later on, but this one I just wanted to highlight the changes. Ancestral Resolve and current have been there. I plan on giving both a thorough testing to see exactly what they do for mana conservation. It is in the works.
7-15-2010 @ 7:06PM
Looking forward to it... if the numbers hold relatively consistent, you could keep healing rains up indefinately... awesome, but probably not what they had in mind....
7-16-2010 @ 11:18AM
Neither of those talents should exist so why talk about them?I'll induldge you. Shock talent - lets you charge your next heal. Sounds great except it will never save you mana and take up atleast 3 seconds to do (2 gcds) not including cast time or haste. In that time you could probably cast a spell twice and do 200% healing instead of 120% and some damageTelluric Currents is worthless to everyone except the leveling shaman. If mana is as tight as blizz wants it no pvp or pve player will waste the mana. And anyone who has been playing for a decent amount of time has a dual spec and it certainly can be a dps one. Some interesting changes. Ancestral Awakening off of Chain heal? Yes please. Tidal Force wasn't a great talent. If you used it in a rotation you shouldn't be healing...cause you used the R-word. Some people macro'd it into nature's swiftness+healing wave+ TF which is a bad idea. Why? Cause it takes 3 gcd's for an instant heal. Improved Reincarnate is useful! I use it, mostly cause I'm still doing hm's in icc. Several of which fights would be instant death if I stood up with 2000 hp, and in some wonderful cases or RNG-WIN standing up with 12k still isn't enough. Its a great talent to invest in and drop some points currently out of Tidal Focus(at 5 talent points it was saving me on average 2k mana on fights I cast a lot). Which also brings me to why I think Tidal Focus is a terrible talents.Talents that need to go NOW: Restorative Totems. Its a talent that buffs a buff. Blizz said they wanted them gone, and so should we. Totemic Focus. No self respecting shaman has used this talent in years and should never ever use it. Complete waste of space.
7-16-2010 @ 12:18PM
actually telleric currents returns much more mana than lb costs, and with the change away from spamming heals, a small mana regeneration ability that also does some damage Could be very helpful even to the raiding shammy, imho...
7-18-2010 @ 8:21PM
@Breaklance: That macro actually does work. Why? Because NS and TF are both off the GCD.The shock talent is actually viable. Why? Because haste lowers the GCD, and it would only be 200% the amount healed if you were casting LHW. If you had Tidal Waves up and cast Flame Shock on the boss, then immediately cast GHW on the tank, then if you take into account the ~30-40% cast speed increase from raid-level haste rating, it would take all of ~2.2 seconds for a 130% GHW (and the FS+GHW, i might add, takes 24.5% of base mana due to the -75% mana cost of the heal, as opposed to the 30% that GHW takes alone, making it so you DO save mana) and a DoT on the boss, versus a couple of LHWs in 2 seconds. Granted, if it crits, most of it would probably overheal and be rendered useless, but it would work if your tank gets spiked hard and you need a pseudo-Lay On Hands.Telluric Currents is also not a waste of mana, unless it somehow does less than 6% of your base mana in damage. It says it restores mana equal to 40% of damage done. This means if you do 3000 damage with a lightning bolt, you get 1200 mana in return for 6% of your base mana pool. So if you go OOM, which might actually happen now that we dont have near-infinite mana, if you work in a lightning bolt every couple of GCDs you in fact gain mana and thus increase the longevity of your healing over the course of a fight. As stated by Kuro down there, healadins that go oom just melee the boss to get JoW procs and so regenerate mana. this is basically the same idea, except we get to do it from range. ^_^
7-18-2010 @ 9:38PM
"Focused Mind did not make the cut and has been removed. Not terribly shocked at this one; it was not something you saw regularly taken, even in PvP. "Im sorry but WHAT....EVERY PVP RSHAMAN TAKES THIS! Clearly you dont pvp much..this is a huge nerf
7-18-2010 @ 9:39PM
What's also good is that it improves significantly with gear. The mana cost of LB stays the same, but the damage, and therefore the mana return increases. ..
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