Cataclysm Beta: The latest on shadow priests
Cataclysm has gotten me really excited. And for good reason. Take a quick look at the YouTube video of the beta that's been making the rounds (above). You can see Shadow Orbs in action. And better yet, you can see the Shadowy Apparition mechanism. Come on, even though the art hasn't been implemented, and even though the damage and mechanism is severely bugged, it's still neat as hell. With some vision, you can see how it'll work in the final retail release.
I wasn't always this excited for the Cataclysm-ic changes to shadow priests. When I got my first look at the leaked Cataclysm talents, I was disappointed. Thankfully, the latest build of the beta integrates a new 41-point talent system that's wiped almost all my concerns off the table. I can either choose to believe that everyone else was right and that I was too pessimistic, or I can believe that my criticism of the new talents and talent trees made an impact. Being an unrepentant egotist of the highest order, I choose the latter. But narcissistic personality disorders aside, the change to the talent system represents a huge change for the game as a whole. Was it a hit, or did Blizzard miss (again)?
Standard spoiler alerts apply, so if you're worried about ruining your Cataclysm experience, you'll be better off skipping this week's column in lieu for something of similar entertainment value.
Shadow priesting now begins at level 10
We get a few neat new abilities on the journey from level 80 to 85, but the biggest change to the shadow priest experience in Cataclysm is going to be felt in leveling. The way things are now, you level as a hybrid priest, taking a few holy talents here, a few disc talents there, while still spending the bulk of your points in shadow. After a few key milestones (say, levels 40 and 80), you pay to have your talent tree reset and re-evaluate your choices.
In Wrath of the Lich King, shadow priesting begins at level 40. In Cataclysm, shadow priesting will start at 10.
Once you hit level 10, Cataclysm forces you to make a choice between the three priest trees. It's a pretty high-stakes choice. Once you choose, you're going to be locked out of the other two trees until you're spent your first 31 talent points. No more waffling -- either embrace the light, or embrace the shadow. There can be only one.

The big picture
We'll get a little bit more specific about our new shadow priest talent tree shortly, but before we do, let's start out with a few general thoughts. There's a lot about our new tree that I like. There's some stuff about it I don't. Let's take a quick look at some pros and cons.
- Pro: Blizzard has weeded out a lot of the "filler" talents. Talents like Shadow Reach, Shadow Focus, and Focused Mind are gone. These were necessary talents, but the never really felt "fun" to take any of them. Each point you spend feels more important now.
- Con: Some "filler" talents, like Darkness, are still there. That's exactly the type of talent that the game developers said they wanted to get rid of.
- Pro: Five-point talents have been eliminated. Darkness, Twisted Faith and Improved Mind Blast are now three-point talents. Shadow Power maxes out at two. They seem to max out at their old 2/5 and 3/5 levels, but not to worry -- shadow priests have yet to undergo their balancing process.
- Con: Shadow Weaving is gone. Sure, it's a filler-esque ability, but isn't it still more interesting than Darkness? In my opinion, they dumped the wrong talent.
- Pro: The discipline tree has also redone such that there are non-shadow talents worth taking in the first two tiers.
- Con: I'm going to miss getting a talent point per level. It was a nice bonus to look forward to on dinging a level.
- Pro: Useful stuff is available sooner. Case in point: Shadowform. In Wrath of the Lich King, it was located on the seventh tier, meaning you had to wait until level 40 to grab it. In Cataclysm, it's a third-tier ability, which means you can get it at level 30.
- Con: Gnomes are able to benefit from the new talent tree just the same as the rest of us.
Spirit Tap is seeing a major change in Cataclysm, and it's definitely for the better. As it currently stands, the talent gives you a boost to your spirit upon killing an enemy that yields experience or honor. In Cataclysm, killing an enemy will instantly reward you with 5/10/15% of your max mana. And, if that wasn't enough, you'll get a 10/20/30% buff to your mana regen rate for the next 15 seconds after. That's a huge boost to levelers in PvE, who will no longer need to drink after every pull. Players who prefer PvP will no doubt see dividends from it as well.
In other news, Improved Spirit Tap is gone (yawn), and Improved Shadow Word: Pain is now a first-tier ability. That's pretty yawn-worthy too, since it's a tiny buff to an ability that few newbie priests should be using while solo. Darkness is still around, but as I said earlier, you don't have to put five points in it anymore.
The second shadow tier (level 20)
Improved Psychic Scream, Improved Mind Blast and Veiled Shadows are all part of this tier, which really isn't much of a change from the way things are now. True, you can take the Veiled Shadows talent sooner in Cataclysm than you can now, but I'm not quite sure why you'd want to.
Shadowform and the third shadow tier (level 30)
The third talent tier represents a major "win" for leveling shadow priests, and it's filled with major changes. Shadowform has been moved up, meaning it's now available at level 30. Improved Shadowform loses its spell push back protection (that appears to be a passive part of shadow specialization now), but it does provide a 5% party-wide boost to crit. Improved Devouring Plague has been moved up to be available at an earlier level too. This is nice -- it gives the spell a much needed extra bite for the solo grind.
Mind Melt and the fourth shadow tier (level 40)
The fourth tier is the new home of Mind Melt, which has essentially become an entirely new talent. In Wrath, it was a boost to the crit chance of certain spells. Now, it's a stacking buff to boost our burst damage. That change, I like.
What I don't like is that Vampiric Embrace is now a level 40 talent now instead of a level 30 one. I also don't like that Improved Vampiric Embrace is gone entirely. That's a major nerf to one of our defining abilities.
Other than that, the fourth tier is the new home of Shadow Power. Silence is located in this tier too, which actually means that you have to wait longer to get it. And you still need to invest in Improved Psychic Scream as a prerequisite. If every talent point is now twice as valuable, Silence is now twice as hard to justify taking. Lame.
Shadowy Apparition, VT and the rest of tier five (level 50)
The big news with Vampiric Touch is that there's no news with Vampiric Touch. It remains a level 50 talent. It also still returns 1% of max mana per five seconds via Replenishment -- something we were told would be nerfed.
The other two tier 5 talents are new to Cataclysm, but we've discussed them in Spiritual Guidance before. Shadowy Apparition is a really fun-feeling ability that allows us to deal bonus damage on fights that involve movement. The only new information we have is the proc rate: a 2/4/6% chance per tick of SW:P if you're motionless, 20/40/60% if you're on the move.
Also in tier 5 is Empowered Shadow Orbs, a buff to the new (albeit somewhat passive) Shadow Orb mechanic.
The sixth and seventh shadow tiers
There's nothing really that new to report about tier 6 -- just minor shuffling. Psychic Horror and Pain and Suffering are now level 60 talents, up from 50. Twisted Faith got an overhaul -- it now converts spirit to hit (instead of spellpower).
Dispersion still holds as the final talent in the shadow tree. It remains unchanged.

I had one major concern with the last talent tree build out of the Cataclysm beta: The last few talent points we had to invest didn't feel useful. Granted, that iteration of the talent tree was a mess, and it likely wasn't drawn up with shadow priests in mind. This latest version gives us some options.
With the way the new specialization system is designed, we can only go two tiers deep (at most) into discipline, and again, only after investing 31 points in shadow. My observations on those last nine talent points:
- There's nothing worth taking for DPS-minded shadow priests in the holy tree. (No surprise there.)
- Inner Focus is no longer usable by shadow priests. It's a third-tier disc talent.
- Most shadow priests will look at Twin Disciplines and the mana-saving Mental Agility as their first-tier disc choices. Improved Power Word: Shield is another valid choice for those who spend a lot of time soloing, though it now only maxes out at two points.
- The only real viable shadow priest talent in tier two appears to be Improved Inner Fire.
That being said, this talent tree really isn't for the shadow priest expert. These new talent trees -- shadow included -- are about making the game more accessible to even the casual players. The ridiculously long tooltip for Shadowform is gone. You don't need to do heavy research to figure out what talents you want. That's good news for some, bad news for others.
Filed under: Priest, (Priest) Spiritual Guidance






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Iirdan Jul 16th 2010 9:34AM
I loved the ridiculously long Shadowform tooltip. It made it feel so epic even though it was really only a cosmetic and damage dealing change and didn't do anything "OH HOLY CRAP THAT IS AWESOME".
flint Jul 16th 2010 9:58AM
I know how you feel. I was so upset when I learned that they were nerfing the longest tooltip in the game. Sure, removing it has no impact on gameplay, but I was proud of having the most bloated talent in the game!
Sharvis Jul 16th 2010 9:58AM
Yeahhhh... being required to take Improved Psychic Scream to get Silence is lame in my book. I would love to grab Silence for PVE, even at the cost of a similar utility talent, but not when I have to spend prerequisite points in a talent that I strongly dislike. Plus, it feels like too many points are being spent on DPS talents at this point and not enough free points for hard decision making between utility ones.
Also, I'm guessing Blizzard's comment about Improved Shadowform providing Haste is still in a build they haven't rolled out yet.
quasarsglow Jul 16th 2010 10:44AM
Agreed that I think having Improved Psychic Scream to get Silence is lame.
I never use psychic scream because it sends things running. I am much more a fan of Psychic Horror because if I really NEED to fear something, I don't want it running off to grab friends.
I don't even have Psychic scream on my action bars anywhere because i have such bad luck with pulling more mobs. I use Silence. Lots. Forcing a caster to melee makes me smile. Stopping a crippling spell mid cast is wonderful. If it has to be a prereq, can it only have one talent point to get it. Make Silence available after one point is invested, not two and I don't feel like I have to throw two talents in the trash to get one I want.
Fox Van Allen Jul 16th 2010 11:15AM
Taking away the pre-requisite part of Silence would be a great way to add exactly the kind of "tough, but fun" choices that Blizzard is looking to implement. It doesn't make things mathier or harder to figure out for newbies.
As is, at level 85, I wouldn't be able to justify taking it now. If they removed the prereq, I probably would. Interrupts are underrated, and I'd rather have Silence than, say, 5% more damage mitigation on a PW:Shield.
Rob Jul 16th 2010 10:04AM
Sorta off-topic, but my leveling shadow priest has always been low damage (compred to other dps players at the same level, as noted by doing dungeons), plagued by being OOM quickly. Now at 71 I'm doing decent on mana, but still only doing 200-300 dps in northrend blues/greens. Is there any resource I can go to, and back on topic, is there anything in the talent trees that indicate shadow dps while leveling will get buffed?
Chalcedony Jul 16th 2010 10:35AM
if you're only doing 200-300 dps at level 70 in WotLK gear, you're doing something wrong.
Marathal Jul 16th 2010 10:50AM
Go to Shadowpriest.com and read the FAQ. More than likely your rotation is off and you are clipping Mindflay.
Caleb Jul 16th 2010 3:49PM
if your shadow, and among other people leveling in a dungeon, you should be top damage at lvl 71
i was doing 1500dps+ at lvl 71...
Killik Jul 16th 2010 10:59AM
In my experience, your dps suffers if the targets get killed before your dots have a chance to tick. That's going to be during levelling and if you're in an instance group with high dpsers.
This is a fairly decent shadowpriest guide, although main advice would be to get some sort of timing addon so you know when to use your debuffs:
http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=23234
Killik Jul 16th 2010 11:04AM
I found the addon Event Horizon quite helpful, although your mileage may vary depending on if you like Guitar Hero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6b49x87uGk
feniks9174 Jul 16th 2010 11:09AM
Wowhead.com Priest forums.
Go there and read the stickies. All of them. If you're still having problems and not doing between 1000-2000 DPS in a 5 man, go back and post a thread (complete with armory link and rotation) asking for more help.
Fox Van Allen Jul 16th 2010 11:10AM
I'll back up what Killik is saying -- it's probably an issue of wasted casts.
Even with bad gear, you should be over 300 DPS. Heck, even if you're casting nothing but Mind Flay, you should be over 300 DPS.
I'd suggest trying out an abbreviated rotation, especially if things are dying quickly. Give Vampiric Touch -> Mind Blast -> Mind Flay a try on trash pulls. Alternatively, Devouring Plague -> VT -> MB -> MF may work better, depending on the length of the fight.
Rob Jul 16th 2010 11:16AM
Cool, thanks.
If interested, this is my armory.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Azshara&cn=Giber&gn=Outcasts
I really like S priesting, and priesting in general, its somehow more satisfying than being a warlock or hunter, so hopefully I can bump up this toon and make it a bit easier to solo. Not that its hard right now, since I always have full health (love that), its just slow.
Jizul Jul 16th 2010 11:48AM
Replace Glyph of PW:S with Glyph of Shadow immediately. You need 5/5 Darkness and 3/3 shadow weaving.
Fox Van Allen Jul 16th 2010 12:11PM
I like the idea of him taking Glyph of Shadow, but if he's doing a lot of soloing, I'd recommend keeping the Glyph of PW:S until level 80. If anything, it's the Glyph of SW:Pain that should be replaced.
Also, keep in mind that he's on a PvP realm, so he has a LOT more leeway in choosing talents. And also remember he's not at the end game yet. At level 71, the talent tree is a work in progress.
Marathal Jul 16th 2010 1:57PM
Well you have BoA gear so you probably have at least one level 80. Even though you will probably be getting new gear it is worth at least getting the low level enchants on your BoA equipment. I would probably look at getting new rings and even though you have the 3 socket pants they are for level 60. Every little bit helps. You want to be the guy that gets grouped up in a random dungeon that everyone wants to run more with. You don't want to be the guy that gets kicked because the healer is doing more dps than you. Your next 9 levels are gong to be fun for you. You will go from where you are at now to easily doing 6-7k dps on single targets, at some point look at adding a your fade ability. With low DPS drawing aggro off the tank is not an issue but when your numbers start jumping and you start seeing 10k critical's look out.
GerardthePriest Jul 16th 2010 2:53PM
Check that all of your spells are at their maximum rank, if you haven't already. Downranking can kill your output. I had the hardest time healing on my holy pallie until someone with the rank-checking addon automatically whispered me.
Fox Van Allen Jul 16th 2010 3:24PM
"Check that all of your spells are at their maximum rank, if you haven't already. Downranking can kill your output. I had the hardest time healing on my holy pallie until someone with the rank-checking addon automatically whispered me."
I'd uprate this even more if I could, because that's a HUGE issue for people who dual spec. Warcraft just doesn't update ranks automatically for non-active specs. I was running around with a downranked Penance for about three months.
Rob Jul 19th 2010 9:59AM
Just as a postmortum, I haven't had much time to play, but did look at my spells. Most of them were downranked, some quite a bit. Not sure how that happened, but thanks! Should boost my dps quite a bit.